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2025 FIVB Women's World Championship
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My friend if you tell me where and when I said the A1 isn't good (or low level) i appreciate that . when I'm one of the few who says multiple times that we're the best league in the world RN and as prize I have always to argue with turkish friends for that . So when I Say that A1 isnt good? Without the precise context your statement means nothing
Regarding the " useless players" i think u're reffering to the national team call-ups topic, so let me explain cause Im captain obvious precisely because very often it is the obvious that escapes and needs to be pointed out : for Italy except the starting six + Antropova( so 7 palyer Orro Egonu Danesi Fahr Sylla Moki + Kate), the facts have prove that doesn't change anything if we replace for example Degradi with Nervini or Giovannini or Piva eccecc E.g the mini break in TB vs Turkiye ( before the final 4 blocks ) theres Fersino on the pitch .Fersino - Giovannini. Period.
I dont follow the discussions that have been going on in Italy for at least 5 years about OH in the national team. I Simply tell you that if you have Kate + Paola as OPP , Moki as Libero Fahr as MB eccecc ( the 7 player mentioned above ) and the only position where u donthave a elite player is position 4 for three rotation, you can play with any A1's OH in position 4 and it won't change anything cause were still the best team in the world even with Nervini in 4. That's not where the difference between us and the others lies (captain obvious). So if you want to attack me , bring the entire context on the table instead of spouting off-the-cuff phrases without context
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Gabi is the deserving MVP.
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Gabi is the deserving MVP.
Lol
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I think this is the new record: Victoria Martini, 15 years old and 1.82m (according to the FIVB) just scored 12 ACES IN ONE SET, against Colombia in the South American under-17.
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I think this is the new record: Victoria Martini, 15 years old and 1.82m (according to the FIVB) just scored 12 ACES IN ONE SET, against Colombia in the South American under-17.
This is like negative record
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This is like negative record
south americans need to burn this data Negative for someone but positive for another
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I didn't know that Danesi was attacked by Turkish fans. I could say that her statements about Vargas and Ebrar were ... bold
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I didn't know that Danesi was attacked by Turkish fans. I could say that her statements about Vargas and Ebrar were ... bold
Well deservedly, she is such a nasty person🤮🤮
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Well deservedly, she is such a nasty person🤮🤮
We,ve all told you so many times but finally you agreed with all this forum community.
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We,ve all told you so many times but finally you agreed with all this forum community.
Lol you arent the smartest cookie, are you?😂 i meant Danesi 🤦 she is such a shit stirrer. Accusations towards whole nation based on one player is terrible. She is desperately looking for attention to her stupid book
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Lol you arent the smartest cookie, are you?😂 i meant Danesi 🤦 she is such a shit stirrer. Accusations towards whole nation based on one player is terrible. She is desperately looking for attention to her stupid book
You said it yourself. Sometimes you can not understand when Ι am being sarcastic as you didn't get it now . And as you did not get the point, just rethink of it
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I've read a lot of fuss about Danesi's book and I do believe the translation really missed the sense of what Anna was trying to share. Some words in Italian have a meaning that can be lost or misread when translated, so I underlined and bolded them.
Here's the snippet of the part where she described her perspective of the pool stage game:
QuoteDisplay MoreCome con la Serbia, abbiamo sempre avuto un conto in sospeso anche con le turche, una squadra tosta, fortissima, allenata dal tecnico di Conegliano Daniele Santarelli, che ci conosce tutte come le sue tasche. Molte di noi hanno giocato per lui al PalaVerde e Monica lo ha addirittura sposato. Dire che difficilmente avremmo potuto sorprenderlo sul piano tattico è un eufemismo.
Le giocatrici della Turchia, tra le quali in primis le fortissime Melissa Vargas ed Ebrar Karakurt, ti urlano in faccia, gesticolano come forsennate dopo ogni punto e spesso cercano di intimidirti. Sono pallavoliste molto fisiche, in alcuni casi addirittura imponenti, con pettinature punk, tanti tatuaggi e grandissima personalità. Per sfidarle devi raccogliere tutto il tuo coraggio.
I palazzetti, inoltre, anche quando si gioca in campo neutro sembrano popolati solo da turchi. I loro tifosi fanno un rumore infernale e si sgolano a favore della squadra creando un caos pazzesco che monta ancora di più la grinta delle giocatrici in campo. Sfidarle può essere un vero inferno, ma basta guardare i primi minuti del set di apertura della nostra partita per capire che a Parigi le loro tattiche non avrebbero mai potuto funzionare. I loro sguardi erano cattivi, feroci. Mostravano letteralmente i denti, non era solo un modo di dire. Ringhiavano.
Noi, invece, dall'altra parte della rete sorridevamo. Giocavamo con tutta la calma del mondo e così le facevamo arrabbiare ancora di più. Le abbiamo sconfitte con i fatti, non con le facce.
Noi giocavamo, ci divertivamo e schiacciavamo a terra palloni, mentre loro sbuffavano e sbagliavano. Le loro facce da tigri si sono trasformate piano piano in quelle di tanti micini bagnati, sovrastati da un avversario che aveva in mano un asso pigliatutto che non pensavi nemmeno esistesse: la serenità. Un sentimento che spero di essere riuscita a trasmettere con il mio esempio.
To sum it up:
1) she talked about having a bone to pick against a very strong, tough and well-coached Turkish team;
2) she went through the challenges one has to face when playing against Vargas and Karakurt, both regarded as very strong, physical and able to make everybody feel their presence on court, with gestures that aim to intimidate the opponent. Their haircuts and tattoos contribute significantly to the overall aura and she feels like one has to take the courage up to face the challenge;
3) she expressed the challenge of playing in front of a Turkish crowd, even in a neutral venue. The fans are able to make some big noise and this gives even more energy to an already pumped up team, so the challenge was to not be bothered by that competitiveness and these eyes of the tiger and respond to this simply playing the game;
4) she felt like the more Italy played smoothly, the less Turkish player were able to maintain these eyes of the tiger, looking more and more like kittens.
And here's the snippet describing the semifinal:
QuoteDisplay MoreNon ho ancora rivisto le partite dell'Olimpiade, perciò della semifinale ho ricordi un po' sfocati, con tante scene che si sovrappongono una all'altra in modo confuso ma molto emozionale.
Ho in mente un primo set fantastico, in cui Sarah Fahr ha piazzato una serie di muri in faccia a Vargas, direi mille (è forse un numero troppo alto?), così la partita si è messa immediatamente sui binari giusti.
Mi ricordo anche un mio muro sulla forte centrale del VakıfBank, Zehra Güneş, che ha bloccato sul nascere il loro ennesimo tentativo di rimonta velleitaria. E ricordo l'espressione contrita di Karakurt, di solito così grintosa, quasi «pazza», mentre si accomodava in panchina con la testa bassa e gli occhi smarriti dopo un nostro ennesimo attacco di successo. Il suo sguardo, che di solito lancia lingue di fuoco come un dragone infuriato, quel giorno sembrava quello di un agnellino. Solo nel terzo set, l'ultimo, hanno provato un assalto disperato, ma a ogni slancio noi toglievamo loro l'aria. La rete sembrava sempre troppo alta, i nostri muri resistenti all'urto come fossero di pietra, le nostre schiacciate fulmini imprendibili.
Messo a terra l'ultimo pallone, è stato il tempo dell'orgoglio, degli abbracci, dei baci a Davide, dell'emozione bella di saperci a medaglia. Il tempo del chill, quello vero.
Le turche, lo posso confessare senza timore, non ci sono mai state troppo simpatiche. Così è stato un doppio piacere averle battute due volte nello stesso torneo; credo si ricorderanno a lungo di noi. Contro «le ragazze nel chill» non hanno avuto scampo.
To sum it up:
1) she hasn't rewatched the match yet, but she remembered a lot of Fahr's block on Vargas and her block on Güneş;
2) she remembered Karakurt having an unusual head-down look, almost like a lamb, a striking difference from other mathces, considering she's always pumped up like a dragon ready to breath fire;
3) she admitted she doesn't find the Turkish team very likeable and felt like it was a double pleasure to beat them twice in the same tournament.
I understand that some might not like some of this takes, but accusing her of being evil, worse, or racist (like most of this X accounts wrote) is out of place. They better shitstorm idiots like Salvini, Vannacci or Pillon instead of Danesi.
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I saw that first from elitedovolei's IG and since majority of the ones I follow on twitter are Brazilians and Asians I didn't really see anyone attack Danesi. Not that she said anything new or wrong tbh, people here have said far worse. But of course you can't say anything against Turkish players they're far too perfect for this earth
Also FIVB allowed Karakurt to play even if she has physically and emotionally abused her exes both on social media and in person while championing a violence against women campaign for years that alone should be a reflection of how low the bar is for Turkey.
Let's also not forget the amount of Turkish fans that taunted Mayu Wada and the rest of the Japanese team when they beat them to get back at their supporters for supporting them that JVA had to make an announcement regarding harassing players
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Well I did post it not because I thought that Danesi said anything wrong but because it is too bold when she knows that she will be attacked for what she said. Fro my perspective she did not insult anyone and everything she said was true.
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Display MoreI've read a lot of fuss about Danesi's book and I do believe the translation really missed the sense of what Anna was trying to share. Some words in Italian have a meaning that can be lost or misread when translated, so I underlined and bolded them.
Here's the snippet of the part where she described her perspective of the pool stage game:
To sum it up:
1) she talked about having a bone to pick against a very strong, tough and well-coached Turkish team;
2) she went through the challenges one has to face when playing against Vargas and Karakurt, both regarded as very strong, physical and able to make everybody feel their presence on court, with gestures that aim to intimidate the opponent. Their haircuts and tattoos contribute significantly to the overall aura and she feels like one has to take the courage up to face the challenge;
3) she expressed the challenge of playing in front of a Turkish crowd, even in a neutral venue. The fans are able to make some big noise and this gives even more energy to an already pumped up team, so the challenge was to not be bothered by that competitiveness and these eyes of the tiger and respond to this simply playing the game;
4) she felt like the more Italy played smoothly, the less Turkish player were able to maintain these eyes of the tiger, looking more and more like kittens.
And here's the snippet describing the semifinal:
To sum it up:
1) she hasn't rewatched the match yet, but she remembered a lot of Fahr's block on Vargas and her block on Güneş;
2) she remembered Karakurt having an unusual head-down look, almost like a lamb, a striking difference from other mathces, considering she's always pumped up like a dragon ready to breath fire;
3) she admitted she doesn't find the Turkish team very likeable and felt like it was a double pleasure to beat them twice in the same tournament.
I understand that some might not like some of this takes, but accusing her of being evil, worse, or racist (like most of this X accounts wrote) is out of place. They better shitstorm idiots like Salvini, Vannacci or Pillon instead of Danesi.
I strongly believe that Danesi words were heavily misunderstood and lost in translation. Whoever speaks Italian notices that her words could be controversial, but they were not racist or discriminatory at any moment.
It reminds me the big fuss caused by Santarelli’s word during a TO against Brazil, when he said the famous “They do not have quality”, but it was more than obvious for anyone with two drops of common sense that he clearly intended that Brazilian team did not have quality in that passage of the match, he meant in that rotation or when someone Brazil doesn’t have good reception. Even though he could also be labelled as provocative (and I do agree), he never disrespected at all Brazilian team or their history at the sport.
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Also FIVB allowed Karakurt to play even if she has physically and emotionally abused her exes both on social media and in person while championing a violence against women campaign for years that alone should be a reflection of how low the bar is for Turkey.
Ebrar and Brovkina just posted a video few days ago. Not saying Ebrar is innocent or anything but we may not know everything that happened
You can check out Brovkina’s IG for the video
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I saw that first from elitedovolei's IG and since majority of the ones I follow on twitter are Brazilians and Asians I didn't really see anyone attack Danesi. Not that she said anything new or wrong tbh, people here have said far worse. But of course you can't say anything against Turkish players they're far too perfect for this earth
Also FIVB allowed Karakurt to play even if she has physically and emotionally abused her exes both on social media and in person while championing a violence against women campaign for years that alone should be a reflection of how low the bar is for Turkey.
Let's also not forget the amount of Turkish fans that taunted Mayu Wada and the rest of the Japanese team when they beat them to get back at their supporters for supporting them that JVA had to make an announcement regarding harassing players
make it make senseGood that fivb doesn't make decisions based on rumours🤦 they publish a video together. Not like someone who was abused would do🙄
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I strongly believe that Danesi words were heavily misunderstood and lost in translation. Whoever speaks Italian notices that her words could be controversial, but they were not racist or discriminatory at any moment.
It reminds me the big fuss caused by Santarelli’s word during a TO against Brazil, when he said the famous “They do not have quality”, but it was more than obvious for anyone with two drops of common sense that he clearly intended that Brazilian team did not have quality in that passage of the match, he meant in that rotation or when someone Brazil doesn’t have good reception. Even though he could also be labelled as provocative (and I do agree), he never disrespected at all Brazilian team or their history at the sport.
But people choose what to believe and most of social networks in Brazilian despise Santarelli cuz of this.Most of the things you have mentioned here is correct. On the other hand, Danesi must be clever enough, to think where her words are going to...OK She wrote a book and shared her experiences with some trading strategies in order to take attention but she should know that, scratching the same point can cause some scars and continuously talking about Turkish NT and the players with some sarcastic wordings in her book can obviously takes reaction. We are in 2025 and going 2 years back, they were defeated from all arenas and she was also there. What if Türkiye defeats them in 2026? Will she modify her book?
Orro and Sylla came to Türkiye with very warm welcoming. If the people who show reaction to Danesi are racists, why the same people warmly welcoming these mentioned players (Sylla and Orro)? It is a very dangerous stage and everyone should be careful with their speeches, what they write or say, which may cause all sides to consider others as racist.
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I've read a lot of fuss about Danesi's book and I do believe the translation really missed the sense of what Anna was trying to share. Some words in Italian have a meaning that can be lost or misread when translated, so I underlined and bolded them.
Here's the snippet of the part where she described her perspective of the pool stage game:
To sum it up:
1) she talked about having a bone to pick against a very strong, tough and well-coached Turkish team;
2) she went through the challenges one has to face when playing against Vargas and Karakurt, both regarded as very strong, physical and able to make everybody feel their presence on court, with gestures that aim to intimidate the opponent. Their haircuts and tattoos contribute significantly to the overall aura and she feels like one has to take the courage up to face the challenge;
3) she expressed the challenge of playing in front of a Turkish crowd, even in a neutral venue. The fans are able to make some big noise and this gives even more energy to an already pumped up team, so the challenge was to not be bothered by that competitiveness and these eyes of the tiger and respond to this simply playing the game;
4) she felt like the more Italy played smoothly, the less Turkish player were able to maintain these eyes of the tiger, looking more and more like kittens.
And here's the snippet describing the semifinal:
To sum it up:
1) she hasn't rewatched the match yet, but she remembered a lot of Fahr's block on Vargas and her block on Güneş;
2) she remembered Karakurt having an unusual head-down look, almost like a lamb, a striking difference from other mathces, considering she's always pumped up like a dragon ready to breath fire;
3) she admitted she doesn't find the Turkish team very likeable and felt like it was a double pleasure to beat them twice in the same tournament.
I understand that some might not like some of this takes, but accusing her of being evil, worse, or racist (like most of this X accounts wrote) is out of place. They better shitstorm idiots like Salvini, Vannacci or Pillon instead of Danesi.
I don't think it is lost in translation situation. Based on your translation she still sounds quite provocative and discriminating. She is calling players intimidating because of their tattoos and haircuts, which is obviously discriminating.
She knew she will get such a bad backlash when she wrote such provocative claims about players (looking like kittens?? Looking like a lamb??).
Reaction she gets is very well deserved and expected👏👏