Serbian Women's NT 2025 - The Hour of The Boss

    how do you know ı am not competent to teach you? I dont work for TVF neither I trained any of NT OHs lol


    I am not representing them.


    Maybe I am so good at volleyball that ı can make really solid conclusions by watching players 3-4 games :win:


    She is not a better athlete neither stronger than İvanovic. You will see Terzic wont give her much time.


    About the things she is doing good against Russian League blocks,


    as a serbian team member she would need to perform against much better block-defences, not B-C level block defences in the local leagues.

    btw, Serbia does not have a solid Oh since Brankica. That's why Boskovic has had to carry this team alone for the last 4 years and you can't reach your goals.


    So you are not much different than Turkiye in terms of raising OHs.

    I guess you are volleyball expert but bad reader. I said Ivanovic is stronger, but on the other hand, height of the spike dont depend solo of jumping height.


    About russian part, this is true. But she is no different than any of 100 other OH that play on this level. With your logic, there is only 5 OH in the world that can play on this level. You forgot that italy won olympics with Boseti and Giovannini.

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    btw, Serbia does not have a solid Oh since Brankica. That's why Boskovic has had to carry this team alone for the last 4 years and you can't reach your goals.


    So you are not much different than Turkiye in terms of raising OHs.

    4 years? We dominated 2 years ago at WCH. You are not such a expert if you still believe that Serbia did not had entire starting 6. In the finale, there was moments when Brazil did not stand a chance to put a ball on the floor.

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    4 years? We dominated 2 years ago at WCH. You are not such a expert if you still believe that Serbia did not had entire starting 6. In the finale, there was moments when Brazil did not stand a chance to put a ball on the floor.

    It was a transition year, other teams were weak and Busa had a great 1 tournament run. Your 2nd hitter was constantly changing.

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    I guess you are volleyball expert but bad reader. I said Ivanovic is stronger, but on the other hand, height of the spike dont depend solo of jumping height.


    About russian part, this is true. But she is no different than any of 100 other OH that play on this level. With your logic, there is only 5 OH in the world that can play on this level. You forgot that italy won olympics with Boseti and Giovannini.

    Bosetti can jump really good and have long arms. And there was Sylla next to her, she was carrying the OM position through the whole tournament, she was great.

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    Bosetti can jump really good and have long arms. And there was Sylla next to her, she was carrying the OM position through the whole tournament, she was great.

    But this is total opposite of your "195cm outside hitters" dream volleyball :lol:

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    Well we didn’t even have 3 good ones a few years ago :lol:

    It’s not like we (or you) have dozens of Gabis and LYYs waiting to get called for NT.


    I get what you meant to say, however it’s not like Tica is some big ossrb project and big hope for NT. She is playing great this season in serious league and she deserves to be in NT. She is much better then Milenkovic already and more well rounded player then Lozo.


    Btw we have some tall 190+ cm OHs in Serbian league that just aren’t good despite being “physical” as you say. Mijatovic is perfect example of that, Tica absolutely destoryed her last 2 seasons in our league whenever they met.

    you have quite physical players at the other positions. ı thought there would be some answer like that "since playing and finding better contracts on foreign teams easier for other positions, our youth teams coach change the positions of our best prospects.


    when ı say say physical ı mean tall and mobile players that can move fast and jump well, not the ones like our Kübra who has only heights or the ones like yaprak who has only athletiscm.

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    But this is total opposite of your "195cm outside hitters" dream volleyball :lol:

    Dude ı am not saying all Oh should be tall, serdar said Uzelac is quite tall for Oh positions


    no she is not. She may be even called as short for that positions after 5 years from now. Plummer, Martinez, Ebrar, Arina, Cristina, LYY and so on... there are really much taller OHs than Uzelac.


    uzelac jumps good and thanks to that, she is ok for high level.

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    So you wanna say we had enough depth in the squad to rotate.

    no you had no depth


    it was just the other teams were weak and Busa had a good tournament that's how Boskovic made you champion.


    When you look at the remaining 3 years of the cycle you can see how lonely BOskovic was and the main reason for this is your "very deep OH pool"

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    you have quite physical players at the other positions. ı thought there would be some answer like that "since playing and finding better contracts on foreign teams easier for other positions, our youth teams coach change the positions of our best prospects.


    when ı say say physical ı mean tall and mobile players that can move fast and jump well, not the ones like our Kübra who has only heights or the ones like yaprak who has only athletiscm.

    We had a general talent drought for more then a few years. Only recently we got some both tall and talented players in every generation post 2003. We didn’t even have athletic MB after Popovic who is 1994 gen, let alone OHs.

    Mateska OH 2005 is 188cm

    Mihajlovic OH 2006 is 182cm but very athletic and good jump

    Miovcic and Nadjfeji OHs 2008 both close to 190cm

    Vujovic OP 2009 is 193cm and still growing

    Tadic OP 2010 is almost 190cm and still growing, she deserves to be talked about more she is amazing prospect.

    New gen MBs are also great, Kurtagic and Osmajic are already known but there is also Kirov (2005, 190cm).

    Such both tall and athletic players didn’t exist on any position for a while, not just OHs.


    Some things changed for better obviously. Until any of those show good level in club season in more serious league we play what we have and Tica, although not world star potential obviously, is better option then Milenkovic, Lozo etc..

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    Dude ı am not saying all Oh should be tall, serdar said Uzelac is quite tall for Oh positions


    no she is not. She may be even called as short for that positions after 5 years from now. Plummer, Martinez, Ebrar, Arina, Cristina, LYY and so on... there are really much taller OHs than Uzelac.


    uzelac jumps good and thanks to that, she is ok for high level.

    I will need to say again, you are dreaming. This tall hitters are not a thing, they are very rare. Most of the tall players cannot receive ball. In a 5 years, half of this players above will retire, and we will again have just Arina and AC who are generational talents and not volleyball standard.


    And you are very hypocritical, Tica is not tall and strong enough for us, but Bosseti is. And you are such a export and you dont see that Tica jump higher than her, and have much stronger spike.


    You acting like people cannot put a paper below her when she jump.


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    no you had no depth


    it was just the other teams were weak and Busa had a good tournament that's how Boskovic made you champion.


    When you look at the remaining 3 years of the cycle you can see how lonely BOskovic was and the main reason for this is your "very deep OH pool"

    Lol we beat Thailand with B team, just few days after you have struggle with your A team against them.

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    Dude ı am not saying all Oh should be tall, serdar said Uzelac is quite tall for Oh positions


    no she is not. She may be even called as short for that positions after 5 years from now. Plummer, Martinez, Ebrar, Arina, Cristina, LYY and so on... there are really much taller OHs than Uzelac.


    uzelac jumps good and thanks to that, she is ok for high level.

    Tall players make for weaker passers and defenders, you don’t need that on both OH positions.

    Furthermore Plummer, LYY and Martinez can barely jump and have similar reach to Uzelac who is way more athletic. Markova and Arina are the only ones who are both tall and have high spike reach but that’s just Russian thing for years.

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    Dude ı am not saying all Oh should be tall, serdar said Uzelac is quite tall for Oh positions


    no she is not. She may be even called as short for that positions after 5 years from now. Plummer, Martinez, Ebrar, Arina, Cristina, LYY and so on... there are really much taller OHs than Uzelac.


    uzelac jumps good and thanks to that, she is ok for high level.

    No that's not true, what you count are a few rare examples. Most nt OHs are 187-192 cm range, which is more than enough for OH position, to me indeed it is a sweet spot because most players taller than that struggles with mobility at defense/reception whereas 'not super tall' players can reach same height or higher due to their athletic skills without compromising their defensive skills much. As mentioned by other users, height purely doesn't mean much, it also depends on arm length, jumping skills, explosiveness etc.


    The 'super tall' players you count are more exceptional ones than norm nowadays. That's why most nt has only one of them or none. So it is not a problem specific to Serbian NT.


    195+ OHs who can receive are literally generational talent and they pops up once every couple of years (Zhu, Li, Arina, Markova) turkey doesn't even have one unless you consider Ebrar as OH

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    No that's not true, what you count are a few rare examples. Most nt OHs are 187-192 cm range, which is more than enough for OH position, to me indeed it is a sweet spot because most players taller than that struggles with mobility at defense/reception whereas 'not super tall' players can reach same height or higher due to their athletic skills without compromising their defensive skills much. As mentioned by other users, height purely doesn't mean much, it also depends on arm length, jumping skills, explosiveness etc.


    The 'super tall' players you count are more exceptional ones than norm nowadays. That's why most nt has only one of them or none. So it is not a problem specific to Serbian NT.


    195+ OHs who can receive are literally generational talent and they pops up once every couple of years (Zhu, Li, Arina, Markova) turkey doesn't even have one unless you consider Ebrar as OH

    "EXCEPTION" LOL


    meanwhile most of the top teams at both club and Nt level has at least one OH that around 195 cms


    Fenerbahçe: Cristina Fedorovtseva

    İmoco Zhu

    Eczacıbaşı Plummer (next year they will also have Ebrar)

    Vakıfbank Markova

    Kazan Martinez


    Besides JPN %70 of the top 10 Nt has at least one of these ~195cm Ohs


    Brazil Cristina

    Russia Markova Arina

    Turkey Ebrar

    China Lyy Zhu

    Usa Plummer

    Poland Czyrnianska

    Dominic Martinez



    The partners of these 195cms are usually +190 cms Hande Lukasik Pena etc


    Only top 10 Nt that do not relly on tall OHs are Serbia, İtaly, Netherlands.


    İtaly have very athletic OHs despite their heights. Netherlands' ideal Oh duo is Nika and Knollema, both are 189 cms and long arms


    There are tons of tall OHs around 195cms, for example we have Kuyan sisters and Liza.

    Most of those players listed have worse jump and worse spike reach then Uzelac and especially Sylla. So what’s the point of height then?
    Martinez and Plummer can literally get outreached by Sylla or Gabi on average due to their explosiveness. Don’t wanna compare passing and defense at all.

    Hande and Pena literally can’t jump, add Busa to that same list of 190cm OHs who are useless in offence.

    Counting Liza Safronova amongst physical players is just hilarious considering girl im terms of physique is just a bit taller Lazovic, can’t jump and lacks strenght.


    3-4cm taller won’t change much in attack when you already have some height, shorter players tend to be more flexible and athletic so they have better jumps (Arina and Markova are clear exeptions not rules). 3-4cm shorter however gives much better body flexibility to be good defender.

    Keep in mind I’m talking about players close to 190cm, to short players even a few cms in height can mean much.

    I mean the discussion is getting off topic here :wavy:

    The point is, Tica might be good in NT and Terzic said she will be given chance. We don’t have many OHs who are consistent on high level and I would rather watch Tica in squad then Milenkovic, Lozo or Mijatovic that’s for sure :)