if you look at the moment it touched the ground, i think it is in. in the first picture the ball was shown just after it touched the ground. look at balls shape. it is not even deformed. it is perfect circle. i think there is nothing wrong with challenge system.
maybe if we were talking about millimeters but there is a huge difference between those two pics. the animation even shows part of the ball was inside the court and not even on the line. to me noway that's possible.
and actually I even think in the first picture the ball is showing just "before" it touches the ground. before or after, it still has contact with the ground.
I simply think showing the real picture is better. I just don't trust this system. I had seen such mistakes before.
This is the ball I was talking about if you check those two pics. at 17-14 in second set. on Vettori's serve .
The TV replay doesn't show the correct image. When the ball fully touches the floor, it is pressed. In the images they show, the balls are mostly spherical. It's either before or after fully touching the floor.
that one yes but I remember one action from 2nd set , Vettori on service line. his service was clearly out from what we saw on the replay but the animation from the video challenge was "in" and gave point to Trentino.
By what criteria is this mid ranked Iranian team invited to this competition? Isn’t there Asian club championship?
well actually they won the Asian Club Championship, but it was a series of accidents that led them to this position. they finished 7th in Iranian league regular season but somehow managed to beat top ranked teams in playoffs losing the final to Sarmayeh Bank. and since Sarmayeh doesn't exist anymore. they went to the Asian Club Champs as the Iranian league champion. the AVC Club Champs was in a poor level this year (because so many competitions close to each other in 2018) and they won it and I have to say they had couple of additional players (from other Iranian clubs) for that competition but now in middle of the Iranian league that's impossible. instead they lost their star players because of late injuries making them even weaker. they have to use someone else as a libero because of Marandi's injury.
6 out of 8 teams come from Europe and it’s called clubs world championship? What a joke.
I wanted to write the same, and actually 6 teams from 3 countries !
I didn't follow this competition that much in past couple of years. did FIVB announced a reason for not inviting African teams here ? unlike North America, we have Continental Club Championship in Africa.
the Iranian team "Khatam Ardakan" is not even a good team in Asian standards, let alone in such competition. they are a mid table team in Iranian league right now, and because of last minute injuries of Shahram Mahmoudi and Mehdi Marandi they can't even bring that team to Poland. I highly doubt this team can win a set here. maybe FIVB won't invite any Asian team next year
I heard some rumors about Iran withdrawing from the VNL for different reasons, first financial problems. 2nd USA being host of the finals and 3rd massive problems inside the Iran Volleyball Federation but now I see they didn't withdraw but they will host 2 weekends !
and unlike 2018 when Iran had a very tough schedule. 2019 is different China > Japan > Iran > Iran > Bulgaria ! no travel to American continent !
Is Sharifi injured? He seldom played in this WCh. During the VNL, he's been the main weapon for Iran.
he got injured in last friendly match before the competition against Canada if I'm not wrong. that's why he had less playing time in the whole competition.
btw Kolakovic made a perfect job by players selection. today in the last match when Ghafour was injured he had to play with youngster Saber Kazemi and the kid almost missed every single spike. at some point Marouf stopped to set for him no matter what. it was like Iran playing with 5 players on the court.
I'm not following women's volleyball very closely but looks like that was Iran's first ever win over Kazakhstan !
ps: I assume that's Kazakhstan's A team . right ?
Another Iranian player signed to play in Superlega. Amir Ghafour (OP) to Volley Monza.
sorry for the OT, but maybe if IRN would support its women athletes the way they support the men... :- (
Iran also didn't send a team in men's baseball or men's hockey because they were not competitive. actually they are "less strict" about the women. at least in this case it's not about gender, the NOC just doesn't send non-competitive teams. it's not the volleyball federation's decision.
there is no doubt that the situation is not equal for the women's team. and there are so many limitations for the girls but at least in this case it's not about the gender but the quality.
btw that was an easy competition for Iran. they won the gold without dropping a set. and we will see how much it will affect the team in the World Championship.
OT: mosi, why did IRN not send a women's team?
simply because they had absolutely no chance for medal. that was Iran NOC's policy, there were few exceptions in individual sports but in team sports only those who can challenge for a medal.
mosi, what are they going to change with AVC cup?
I'm sure I heard something about that but I can't remember exactly unfortunately. but they are trying to find a solution to improve their competitions, they want to revolutionary change their calendar. I mean we had Asian Club Championship only few days before the AVC Cup and we had more or less the same teams competing in both competitions . and then most of those teams left to Indonesia for the Asian Games. for example Vietnam. this is the 3rd tournament in a month for the exact group of players. or Kazakhstan or Thailand. I think that was smart from Qatar to withdraw from the AVC Club Champs. they won the AVC Cup and they have a very good chance for a bronze here.
if I'm not wrong they want to create something specifically for second/third tier teams, and not letting VNL teams sending B/C squads. but since this is AVC I'm not really optimistic about a positive change. I mean take a look at their "new format" nobody understands how the hell they set things in knockout round. even at the Asian Games. Iran got a "bye" in quarterfinal ! AVC's changes are not usually positive !
PS: AVC Club Championship is supposed to be a club competitions but as we know most countries simply send their national teams under a sponsor name. sometimes they don't even have a name !
it's not always about the ranking. at least for Iran, Asian Games is the most important competition in Asia, I think this is the same for other countries , they sent B teams only because of the World Championship , if you remember guys South Korea withdrew from 2002 World Championship to participate in Busan 2002 Games.
then it's the Asian Championship, I know Iran didn't take 2017 and 2015 Championships seriously , they sent B team to 2015 (which hosted by Iran) and a very bad U21 team to Indonesia for 2017. I remember sometimes Australia also didn't bring its best European-based players. but still most of the times we see Asian teams bringing their best possible teams. to me that was very stupid from the Iranian federation to sent B/U21 teams. and i have to say they also wanted to send B team to the Asian Games but the Iran NOC pushed them to send A team. and as I mentioned in another post, most of the players also wanted to play in Jakarta for some personal reasons.
AVC Cup is a totally non-important competition. Iran used to take it serious when Iran was also a second tier team in Asia. right now top teams don't take it seriously at all and from what I heard 2017 was the last edition of AVC Cup . at least under current format.
well maybe China and Japan can afford losing a gold medal but for Iran NOC every single possible gold medal matters here. the initial plan was sending the B team , they even appointed a coach and made a list but then the NOC pushed the volleyball federation into using the A team. apparently most of the players also wanted to go to the Asian Games.
Iran B team just advanced to the AVC Cup final. I think if Kolakovic is going to make a change that will be Yali, Esfandiar or Karimi the setter. key players in this B team .
for so many years under Kovac and later Lozano, Iran relied only on a limited group of players. I'm glad Kolakovic finally changed that bad habit. for example I never understood how come Mahdavi is the second setter for a decade ?! he was always a terrible setter.
Marouf's injury was nothing serious. at the moment only Mousavi and Ghaemi have slight injuries. and yes this is the final roster for the Asian Games and most probably the World Championship Kolakovic says having changes after the Asian Games is unlikely but not impossible
Vadi is a better setter than Salafzoon. and as we knew MirzaJP is in Kolakovic's black list. he was supposed to play for Iran B team in AVC Cup but he rejected that. so I think even if Kolakovic is going to make a change there is no chance for MirzaJP.
The 14-player roster of 2018 Asian Games:
S - Li Run-ming, Zhan Guo-jun
OP - Wang Jing-yi, Li Li-ye
OH - Zhang Chen, Zhong Wei-jun, Yu Yuan-tai, Yuan Dang-yi
MB - Zhang Zhe-jia, Li Rui (Henan), Li Yuan-bo, Peng Shi-kun
L - Ren Qi, Chen Jia-jie
In theory, these 14 players won't participate in 2018 WCH.
Is this a B team or A team ? I'm asking because I see some familiar names here.
btw your U20 team lost to Iraq ?!??!!! how come
as I expected Mohammad Mousavi is too lazy to leave his easy life in Iran, apparently he will play next season in Urmia in Iran SL.
according to some Iranian sources Stocznia Szczecin wants Mohammad Mousavi.
Mousavi is such a lazy person. he needs a move like this to wherever they push him to work harder, he used to be much better few years ago but still I can't imagine if he leaves Iran he is too lazy for a challenge. that "Stocznia Szczecin" is too difficult for him. I mean the name itself for him to learn !
It seems Iran is going to sacrifice the World Championship to win the Asian Games title ! while they were supposed to send a "B team" to Jakarta, all of a sudden they changed their mind (because of the order they got from the Iran NOC and the sport ministry) and they will send the A team to Jakarta to defend the gold medal they won 4 years ago.
Asian Games will finish only few days before the World Champs and this is going to ruin their normal preparation plans, and beside that there will be only 2-3 good teams in Jakarta (China and Japan likely to send B teams even though I'm not sure) playing likes of Maldives and Hong Kong won't prepare you for Poland !
but I think younger players are probably happy with this. winning the gold medal in AG will make them exempt from the military service. for this reason Javad Manavinejad wanted to play for B team in AG instead of the A team, problem solved for him now.