Posts by Kadir

Neriman as OPP and Hande/Meliha OHs duo is the best now. Neriman had played as OPP in her team but as far as I watched her some matches, she switched to position 4 when her team served. This system can be used in NT too. Hande feels more comfortable at position 2 and Neriman at 4. And I believe Hande's receiving is better than Neriman.

I am really happy to see Neriman back. She had played a great season in Japan and definetely needed for this team. She is just 30 years old and still has something to give this team for the road to Olympics.

The wide roster looks okey but I would like to see Sahila Sahin instead of forexample Cansu Cetin or Humay Topaloglu. Saliha had some chances to play last year and she had quite a good season in a mediocre team like Karayollari. She has bigger potential than Cansu(who is 26) and Humay.

Overall I dont think the team will have big changes compared to last years roster. My ideal 14 is like:

S: Cansu, Naz

OPP: Meryem, Neriman, Ebrar

OH: Hande, Meliha, Fatma

MB: Eda, Zehra, Kübra, Yasemin

L: Gizem, Simge

VNL starts so early this season and the players from the semifinalists teams(the majority of the group) wont have time to rest so the players have played less in their clubs should play the first 2 weeks I think. VNL doesnt mean anything to me actually. It would be nice to be in the finals but if we dont, I wont care. No need to play all summer with the same team like last year. The team cant play with its maximum level all summer long and the peack level should be reached at Olympics qualifications and ECH. So my ideal starting 7 for VNL's first 2 weeks is like : Ezgi/Ebrar, Meliha/Fatma, Kübra/Yasemin, Aylin.

crovolley wrote:

Because in Mihajlovic birth papers says that She is “Serb” (or serbian ) but She is citizen of BIH.

That is with all nations in BiH (Serbian, Croatian and Bosnian)

I am surprised. Does ID card really says you are Serbian or Bosnian? I mean if you have BIH's ID card you are Bosnian.

Why she has to wait 4 years? As far as I remember Mihajlovic didnt wait even 1 year to play for Serbia when she got the citizenship in 2012 before World Olympic Qualification tournament and I remember even she was surprised by FIVB that approved so quickly.

beri wrote:

Kadir it is very relevant to volleyball though, you should look a little further than the length of your nose at times as the Dutch would say

Aydın for example has a female candidate Özlem Çerçioğlu also from the CHP who has won luckily, she is really interested in investing in sports esp. female volleyball. The AKP electorate was not at all which would have affected Aydın's future as a club.

Many times I have said Turkey is in no way similar to Arabian countries or Iran actually also, but they are similar to still some terrible countries. Erdogan wants an islamic version of Russia and that is not much better tbh... You should be haply we won in many cities than instead of being butthurt to me here, the entire night I was out there in Ankara making sure your 'decent' AKP people were not rigging votes and received many harassments of them. They are dictators and their voters usually primitive people, deny that and live in your own bubble. If Ekrem İmamoğlu didn't have his own system installed the İstanbul votes would have been rigged, or did you sleep when the Anatolian Agency was on a 5 hour lockdown?

Turkish people from the opposition should unite today and celebrate the first positive sign in many years instead of attacking each other. Turkey is one of the most corrupt countries in the world and that is a fact, so stop excusing their behaviour while voting opposition there is nothing good they do or did and that is a fact. Turkish economy had a big rise in the early 2000s thanks to tourism and that was AKP's luck yet they managed to screw it over still, so no they did not do anything right sorry. And I don't recall saying things would be better overnight, its time to focus on 2023 (likely 2020 but yea)

Politics is relevant to everyday life especially in Turkey and also to volleyball. Don't say off-topic just because you're annoyed.

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That is what I am against for. You know nothing about me but you have your opinions. I dont want anything like that in this forum. However, I wont go any further. Everyone has own opinions and I respect that.

saishuu wrote:

I, for one, like reading political news anywhere, so thanks, beri  

So I believe you are in wrong place.

harboboy wrote:

WoV is reporting that Vargas is applying for the Turkish citizenship. Hope we will see her as soon as possible in the Turkish NT.

https://www.worldofvolley.com/…-turkish-citizenship.html

OMGMy dreams come true

I dont know why you have brought this subject here, it is nonsense. This is a volleyball forum and I dont think anyone here wants to read political news. Turkish volleyball has been in the world stage since 2003 and Erdogan is the president since 2002 and biggest achievements have been achieved after 2010 (both in NT and club teams) . This is not fare to show like he is against sports in Turkey and he is the biggest 'obstacle' for development at sports in Turkey. You dont have to like AKP or Erdogan but there are many good sports halls and stadiums made in Turkey since AKP government. Turkey has organised many tournaments and eager to organise more. Turkey isnt Arabian or Iranian like country (unlike many Europeans think of) and never will be. So I must say I am very uncomfortable because you brought this subject to here(noone makes this in this forum and you have just started hijab thing also.)

I have a request from the moderators that both messages from beri and me should be deleted. This is a sports forum, politics shouldnt be involved because everyone has own opinions.

Edit: You can think like I am Erdogan fan and votes for AKP but I am not. I have voted like 7-8 times since I am 18 and always voted against him. I have always voted for CHP and I still vote. I dont like many many things of what Erdogan has done. However, I believe it is unfair to show him like he is against sports in Turkey and now everything will be better yeeeaahh. I believe this victory for CHP and Ekrem Imamoglu( ) is a great improvement for Turkey but it is not relevant to volleyball.

Tamer06 wrote:

I think C. Bosetti or Grothues is a replacement for Di Iulio and result of not being able to sign Meliha...

Natalia->Eczacı confirmed by an insider twitter account called voleyboldefteri, it makes perfect sense Gabi is coming over here also...

Kelsey is staying, reportedly she started taking Turkish lessons online...

Zhu is leaving...Kerem Övet of GS management confirmed this in a potcast months ago...

Everybody expected that because her deal with Vakıfbank was for 3 years.

And out of the blue, Ebrar started to play as OH for the first time as a prep for next season and to compansate for lack of a big-hitting OH...

So next year Vakıfbank's foreigners will be:

Rasic( no rumours of replacement, so her transfer news was bogus), Haak, Kelsey, Gabi, Grothues(I expect Bosetti to decline)

As for locals:

Tuğba will be loaned to a SL club probably Beşiktaş..

I expect Derya to stay with the team, and loaned to 1st division..

Ebrar will play mostly as OH..

Guidetti should get rid of Buket and sign a decent backup setter, Buse Ünal would be perfect.

Another transfer could be Aylin Sarıoğlu who would replace Ayça, the backup libero...

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This OHs trio looks so defensive for my taste (though I think Kelsey is a great all around player). I wish Mihajlovic would be in Vakıfbank. Actually I am quite sure Guidetti offered her a room in his team but Mihajlovic has been rejecting it(there were rumors about that last couple of years). Considering Eczacibasi has Boskovic-Natalia and Fenerbahce has Mihajlovic-Vargas duo, Vakifbank will miss Zhu a lot and have a great difficulties at crucial times because they wont have their 'safe button'. I am curious if Gui will choose to play with either Ebrar(OH)-Rasic or 3 foreigners at OHs-OPP.

pope wrote:

You are not wrong. But the thing is. Mihajlovic can not receive, she can just a very few, she certainly can not receive at all against strong teams because they will serve on her all the time. She needs someone covering her all the time, just like in the NT, Busa and Malesevic cover her.

Covering another players for a whole game is something very very hard to do, and it never works. It only works with Serbia because they have 2 of the best spikers in the world.

For example in the WCH semi and final Busa received 60 and 70 balls, while Mihajlovic only received like 5 or so. So is not like yesterday when Gimze had to cover Oh1 and Oh2 when they could not pass Varga`s serve in the 4th.

Some players might not even accept the challenge of playing like that. And when you are covering another player you certainly won`t be spiking many balls, just a very few.

Terzic must find the perfect fit for Mihajlovic otherwise it won`t work.

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I agree that Busa made a great tournament for Serbia but playing that style in club for 6-7 months would be so exhausting. And also I am afraid libero position will be a bigger problem because I dont see any Turkish libero suitable for 2 receiving system. Gizem and Gozde was so good at this when Glinka played OH in Vakifbank but Gizem was one of the best liberoes in the world back then. Eventually I see Mihajlovic having a bigger role at receiving unlike Serbian NT. However I still think Busa isnt what Fenerbahce is looking for

It was an entertaining weekend for volleyball fans. I really enjoyed both semifinals and final today. Congratulations Eczacibasi

Busa definetely has no room at such a big team like Fenerbahce. There are better options than Busa who cant even spike. C. Bosetti or Maret are better options.

As far as I remember Vargas signed 3 years deal with Fenerbahce but I couldnt find any news about it. Do you remember that guys? or is there any news about it?

I really enjoy watching Vargas and hope that she will stay many years in Turkey. If Fenerbahce has signed just 1 year she will get many good offers from Italy, Russia, China and even Japan. Please stay in Turkey Melissa

How great it would be to see Vargas in NT I am curious if is there any offer from Fenerbahce or TVF to Vargas. Is it possible to see her in NT. I can see Vargas will be next Yeon Kim of Fenerbahce (she played 6 or 7 years for them)

Is it offical that Zhu will leave Vakıfbank next season ? Did I miss any statement from Zhu or Vakıfbank?

Why didnt Orthmann play NT last season? She looks such a stable player and she surely could have helped Lippmann. Lippmann, Orthmann and Geerties trio look very stable and stronge. However German NT lacks a good MB nowadays( God, how I miss watching Fürst)

Vakıfbank is one of the best teams in the world and maybe they have the best organisation, players feel comfortable and can get many international trophies.I mean , many world class players would like to play for Vakıf even they offer half of what they offer.That situation was not like that 10 years ago when Turkish league just started to be better, and the clubs had to offer big amounts of money but now it is different. The club management shouldnt feel like they must offer ×2-3 of what they earn in their clubs now. Haak is a good player but she hasnt proved anything yet and offering her a 1 million euro is a big dumbass of the management. Haak can be convinced to 300k euro easily.

Polen and Gözde Yılmaz become very good players by training with worlds best trainers all these years. Cant you see 3+1 wont make NT better and we are still at where we are 10 years ago.

WCH results: 2006 》10, 2010》6, , 2014》9, 2018》10

Where is the improvement? We couldnt qualify to Olympics and I dont have much big hope for 2020. Look at Serbia's evolution in last 15 years and this is because their players play everywhere in the world.(Even when I say I am talking about the mentality difference and dont say they dont have a decent league, you did it) We are quite good at young age categories and maybe better then them.Italy manages to be one of the best NTs in the world with 4+ foreigners but our little, fragile girls must be protected by the rules because their heart would be broken if they cant find a team in Istanbul nearby their boyfriends.

Anyway, everyone has own opinion. I would like to watch more competitive league than a NT that fails always in the big tournaments.

Game changer is a big word but what I tried to say was she isnt even a stable player, just mediocre. Of course I dont compare her with Zhu or Mihajlovic. If you understand that way... And I wont make a list of Italian players here because I see a resistance from you to understand what I say.

bumpsetspike wrote:

Some young players care about the thought of winning club trophies despite not even participating rather than their own self development.

I totally agree with you and this is killing our NT.