Believe me I'm not nervious. I understand that there are cultural differences between countries but really this kind of behaviour - it 's just too much. I don't respect the manner to win at all cost.
Ok wait.
This is not a cultural thing. Please don't generalize this idiocy to whole turkish volleyball community.
some one shut this guy up, failing that shoot him down !
you said it, it's a zoo. ffs 
now he is in the middle of the court, do I expect to much in wishing one of the lokomotiv players to punch him across the face. 
This game is played like it is 19th century
With such musical rhytms between the points and the man who screams the names of Arkas' players.
Butko and Arkas' setter are both playing bad. Right now it's more an Agamez - Sanchez battle.
It's pathetic to resort to these tactics really.
The announcer (?) yells when lokomotiv is serving; (Net, net, the ball will go out etc.)
well if it is like that then its not fair, the same rule should be aplied in all leagues IMO!
you have a point here,
to be the devils advocate ( 
), CL and the rest of the competitions don't follow the same formula.
CL has a F4 tournament, the rest don't, which I guess makes all the difference.
Display MoreWhy VC Baki and Lokomotiv Baki not facing each other in semifinals if they are from same country?
Isnt that the rule from CEV???
http://www.cev.lu/Competition-…titionMatches.aspx?ID=553
That anoys me in CEV< the rule is aplicated in some situations, but not in all....Busto and Urbino will have to face each other in semifinals, the same can happen with Fenerbahçe and Vakifbank, but not for Vc Baki and Lokomotiv? Why?
That rule applies to CL only
So you refuse to recognize that Gamova was great in the Golden Set. That is all I need. And I think most people on this topic would not agree with you.
Again PERSONAL attacks. Farther conversation does not make sense until you learn more how to behave. I've already made my point and I rest my case. And you can keep lol.
ooopps here again with the lolling.
You keep making it personal!
You fail to recognize the sarcastic "lol", to show how immature of a discussion this had been.
You fail to recognize that I never ever said Gamova wasn't great at that set. You put forth people to support your delusional argument, and you deliver the verdict.
Last but not least you attack me for making it personal and ask me to BEHAVE.
All signs indicate that you are not mature enough (regardless of your age) to deserve replying to.
I said I 'll indulge you for the rare occasion, and you came back with this comical non-sense, so you have missed your chance.
Peace out (sarcastic again, i know you'll miss this one as well.)
It is not about who deserve to qualify or who does not. It is not for us to decide. The problem is some people complaining how Kazan lost 3 sets and saying they were playing badly. Then forget to appreciate their great performance in the Golden Set. That is unfair.
Oh, I'm mature enough. And getting personal, like you DID is not a sigh of maturity. Some people who are in there 20's, 30's or even 40's and still behave childish.
Come on!
If you claim to be mature enough, you should also know how provoking you were.
You with your occasional capital lettered words, putting words into peoples mouths, demanding single word answers are not after a good discussion but a heated argument.
Most people here said they disliked the golden set rule, not hate it. Hate is a very strong word and should be used carefully. This dislike didn't result from Kazan winning the match-up.
Most people here predicted that outcome and were indeed wanting Kazan to win.
I personally understand the need to change the previous set average rule, but also am not the biggest fan for this golden set rule.
When CEV decided to implement the golden set rule their strongest argument for that change was that with set average rule teams had to play some sets even though one team guaranteed to advance to the upcoming stage and in those sets teams didn't show any enthusiasm.
Kazan game was a great counter- example for that argument, hence people who are not for this rule understandably wanted to underline this fact.
Since you are here to hear some heated arguments, I thought I indulge you for this rare occasion. Since when a set won single-handedly by one player is considered high level?
Get real, OMG.
There are some rumours about Bakü doesnt want Final 4 organization right now becouse there is no Azeri team. Is this true? It also says that Kazan and Fenerbahçe would like to host F4 but Istanbul has a bigger chance at this point..
Is there anyone else who hear the same rumours?
It is very unlikely.
Azerbaijani federation must have signed some kind of guarantee, I think if they back down now, they'll be severely fined.
WEll, congratulations Villa. That all I can say.
For my part, Im very proud of Foppa! They never give up! Yes, we dont have the best team, yes we miss a setter and a oppositte in international level! (I REALLY MISS LEO AND ORTOLANI!) Tecnicly we are not the best team even in ITaly.....but these girls have heart!!!!! And for that spirit Im really proud....they have values that go beyong the four lines! Im honor to support Foppa always!
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Although I generally like Bergamo, I was hoping Villa Cortese to win this one.
With all due respect to your admiration of Foppa, after their lack-luster and -forgive me when I say- pathetic performance at the group stage, Foppa didn't deserve to be in F4.
Watching the game, I find myself applauding their effort in this game, but I can't forget how they were playing before.
May be the bigger part of the fault lies with the board for letting their once great team to be scavenged like that, yet even with what they have they should not be beaten to Costanta.
Honestly speaking none of these two teams should be in F4, they should thank CEV for this chance (?). Then again Cortese had the harder road to reach quarter finals, and generally they deserved F4 more than Foppa.
Turkish League is 2+1
2 on the court + 1 on the bench
yes but teams can sign more. I believe they can sign upto 6 players.
there is also a different limit for 2nd league level.
I know it sounds like a simple question, but Big Ren, you really need to be more specific.
what is that you are really looking for?
Then there is a question for who is considered a foreigner.
For Turkey, even having a turkish passport doesn't qualify you as turkish player.
Sokolova had one for years and she is still considered a foreigner.
my first try to embed a video on any forum.
so if there are any mistakes ı apologize in advance
as far as I can understand this video is shut by a player of women's basketball team of Fenerbahce, Kubra Siyahdemir
For people who don't know him, the person this video is about is Arslan Ekşi, setter of Fenerbahce Grundig
http://a.yfrog.com/img843/1733/23716047.mp4
K: Ok, I got it this time. now an interview, a live interview.
A: What interview, after this there can't be an interview. For god's sake!
K: Ohhhh too harsh. (it's a saying used by a character from a popular TV series in Turkey)
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Before Ilgar wrote this, some bad words were said about Rahimova's behaviours while Gamova's bad behaviours were taken here by same people as sympatic.
And, I do not find Gamova is a great player, she is just a height. What made her a star is her scoring ability due to her height in a "good team/s" like Russia. If Gamova played in a loser national team, she'd not be a star at all. Don't forget, MVPs, best spikers, etc are chosen from "winner" teams.
Ps: Btw, you are forgetting that these are women. They get more jealous of youngers when they age more.
I thought I should intervene here.
I am one of the people, maybe the only one who said I kind of like Gamova acting out.
Yet I also clearly said that it is sort of bigoted of me.
I don't appreciate when players act out in such ways.
Gamova is a special case for me, since I believe she re-acting out instead of acting out, meaning that she reserves those kind of silliness for other players who are very vociferous.
More importantly she carries herself as a cool, diva like person, almost statuesque. These acting outs remind me that she is a human after all.
I repeat this is pure bigotry on my part. I realize that, but won't apologize for how I feel.
What will happen if the same team win the cup and the championship?
obviously if the cup winner also gets the chance to participate to CL, it participates to CL.
so the best team which doesn't get the chance to enter Cev cup, does so.
to be more clear here is an example
league standing after regular season
1. team a (later becomes the champion)
2. team b
3. team c (later becomes the vice champion) (cup winner)
4. team d
5. team e
6 team f
after the playoffs
1.team a -------> CL
2. team c ------> CL
3. team b ------> CEV cup
4. team d ------->CEV cup
5. team e --------> Challenge cup
6. team f
in league ? no, Vakifbank was
oh my!
some how I thought VGSTT had it (the cup).
how stupid of me.
I must be getting older.
anyhow Eczacibasi received a WC to enter CL.
weird, last year Turkish Cup winner won a ticket to CL
yeah but they were also the runner up
Turkish Cup winner and Turkish Championship winner
nope,
champion and runner up go to CEV CL.
cup winner goes to CEV cup.
I gave the format a few pages back.
I didn't say I don't like it
She's got style, I'll never forget WCH 2006 final when she was so annoyed by Jaqueline's screams that she started to scream too
yeap that one put a smile on my face as well.
BTW it was nice to see clay on the court. I wonder which team he cheers for.
Gamova is playing a lot of defense today
Sometimes it looks rather awkward but she gets the balls...And she looks really motivated, when she blocked Rahimova she sent a little "greeting" over afterwards
gamova actually is a very decent passer once the ball comes her way, it's just her height which prevents her to move quick enough to defend well. It actually looks like a tree falling when she reaches to a ball coming a little wide.
call me a bigot, but i like when gamova acts out, which I don't appreciate in many others.
At the end of the match, before the handshakes, crowd started throwing rolls of toilet paper towards Fenerbahce's side of the court. And after the handshake as Fenerbahce were in a huddle in the middle of their side of the court, you could see more rolls of paper being thrown towards the players and some were thrown over their heads.
I saw a couple of things thrown that weren't toilet paper though, but solid objects. I don't think anyone got hit but for safety's sake, better not to throw anything at all.
some one was hit.
yagmur tweeted "our friend has a little bump on her head but she is OK"
anyhow coming from a country where some football fans are wrecking havoc even at volleyball games, I don't blame all supporters at the hall.
they (the rest of the supporters) may just be a little more vigilant, if they want their supporters to be respected.
just don't act like nothing important happened, since tolerance (and some times, even ignorance) in this case only cause more disturbance.
Rabita without Osmokrovic in 3rd set??? I mean, she didn't score a lot in attack but she helps the team so much in defense, she does many important little things...I don't understand this substitution, but let's see what Rabadzhieva can do.
agreed!
and now I believe enters zhukova, so late.
i think gajic is out of form as well.
