Posts by hakin12

    Firstly you said Haak has %5 better attack rate than Antropova, and beacuse of that she is better they are not close.. etc but ı said Antropova had an injury at the first part of the season if you look the time when both are healthy Antropova put not much worse stats than Haak. We should also talk about the difference between playing in scandicci with Di lulio and playing for İmoco with Wolosz.


    Gabi just entered her prime dont act like she is not. She reached this level 2 years ago and continue. Wolosz's prime period is slowly passing, but Maja should have retired for 2-3 years, they are not at the same stage of their careers. I don't want to discuss volleyball with someone who thinks Maja-Zhu duo to Gabi-Wolosz duo right now, have a good day.

    There are more to it than just stats. Haak is better at clutch points than Antropova and she is blocked less and she makes less errors. She is also better against elite opposition whereas Antropova has struggled vs better teams so far in her career. Dont get me wrong here as I believe Antropova is an elite prospect, but she is still quite raw and not on Haaks level yet due to this, imo.

    1. you have nothing to say about her stats at the second part of the season?

    2. I am not saying she is at Haak's level but they are not at very differenet levels.

    3. I did not say anything about Maja and Zhu or current Scandicci team, but yes, the Gabi Wolosz duo would be better than the current Scandicci formation. Maja and Zhu both are far from their prime. I'm just saying that Imoco could trust Antropova too if they had these two names.

    Also scandicci already trusted Antropova to challenge with İmoco, so you are supporting my point in some way.

    Wolosz and Gabi are not youngsters either. Zhu Ting is past her prime but she is still producing very efficient numbers. She is one of the most efficient attackers of the Italian league atm and producing stats very similar to that of Gabi in Turkey.


    Moreover, you are just cherry-picking and manipulating stats with the numbers of Antropova during the second part of the season and weighing those stats with Haaks during the similar time span. Haak had a poor second part of the season whereas Antropova was strong during this period. Meanwhile, Haak had a brilliant first part of the previous season and Antropova started slowly. In addition, the sample size you come up with is simply too small to make a serious point while comparing the stats of one part of the season instead of the entire part, i.e we are talking about a too limited amount of matches to make a conclusion from the evidence.


    I mean, to counter the stats of Haak and Antropova during the full season of last year with some more favourable time spans when they come across as equal is pure manipulation of stats and distortions of reality through "fragmentisation". I do not even have time to refute such arguments as I consider it to be a fairly dishonest way of making a point. Of course its plausible to fragmentise reality and manipulate stats by only selecting certain favourable periods where the player you pick to be better played better than the other, it takes no Harry Houdini to create your own reality with "facts". It is for sure possible to find a certain time span, lets say between February to April a given year, where say Louisa Lippmann played on par with Egonu, but it doesnt really prove anything as the sample size is too narrow.

    1M is exaggerated even if that is the entire transfer fee. these pages has become like tabloids. last time, the Muratpasa owner said 200k is their asking price if they let her go mid season. even more experienced and better players dont command that price

    Yeah and why, with Arina and Ana Cristina already in the roster and Vargas/Stysiak as OPP, would Fener sense such a desire for an attacking OH? I really do not think Fener have a room for Markova or that she is the playing type they need.

    Antropova was at least at the same level as Haak at the second half of the last season. She had some injury problem at the first part of the season. And she is 4 years younger than Haak. Still Haak is better but you can count on Antropova if your setter is Wolosz and Oh is Gabi.



    Check their stats after 1 ritorno

    Lmao, just stop it. She is playing with Zhu Ting and Herbots and have Ogenjenovic as a setter, isnt that sufficient for Antropova? Do you genuinely think Gabi/Wolosz would be such an upgrade from Zhu Ting/Herbots/Maja? You dont need to get me wrong here, I am not an hater of Antropova at all, quite the opposite, but she has a lot of work to do before she is on the level of Haak. Up until this point she is too error-prone, weak in clutch-time or clutch moments during the pivotal stages of games (i.e setpoints/matchpoints etc) and downright inefficient in general.

    You are talking about the best OH in the world rn. yes there are Cristina and Fedorovtseva but they are different types of OH. You won't find that complete OH as Gabi.


    There are 3 other OPPs at the same level as Haak or better than Haak, and there are also OPPs close to Haak's level such as Akimova, Antropova stysiak and Jordan.

    Akimova and Antropova are not close to Haaks level atm. They might be in the future, perhaps in 2-3 years, but not right now. Antropova is averaging 40% and Haak 51% in the Italian league right now and in previous season Antropova had 42% and Haak 47%. Antropova is athletic and moves well for someone her size, but she usually struggles vs taller blocks and triple blocks. Akimova has great stats or numbers, but her performances against better oppositions so far have been underwhelming. I agree about Stysiak and Jordan Thompson, though. Stysiak is an exceptional player, but most importantly she is also rising to the occasion and do not crumble vs strong teams.

    Haak had 16/23 in attack against Firenze hehe. Sure, Firenze is not elite, but with Kraiduba, Alsmeier and Ishikawa they are decent on paper and Conegliano simply annhilated them. Haak is in the shape of her life atm.

    3,6% attack efficency for Akimova :gone::white:

    Yeah, but her serve is fantastic and she scored a lot of points despite her sloppy showing in attack. Moreover, Novaras reception was horrendous, especially in the first set, and you cannot anticipate all too much from those OOS balls. She is lethal given the right types of balls, but she doesnt kill OOS balls as easily as the Big Five, i.e Bosko, Egonu, Stysiak, Vargas and Haak. In other words, she is more setter-dependent or reliant on solid reception than them, but its just my opinion.


    Perhaps Akimova could have been a little more aggressive today, though. I think she was overtly cautious at times in order to avoid being blocked. However, she was up against Heyrman and Rettke, so its normal being careful in those circumstances.

    Heyrman, together with Egonu and Rettke, are the main weapons for Milano tonight. The Belgians blocking has been incredible so far tonight.


    Akimova hasnt been convincing in attack, but her serve is very effective today.

    Rettke has three aces already after the 1.set. Milano has the lead 6-1 in block. This has been decisive so far. Many of the blocks were enabled through great serves which targeted Bosetti and rendered Novaras attack vulernable.

    Look, I said something similar, but since it's me the only who said it, you jumped on conclusions that what it was "idiotic".


    In general young and already established players come to Italy to improve their game. After their develptment is over, they have easy life to get called to their NTs and sign for richer clubs from Turkey or elsewhere.


    Kiraly, for example, wants his players - expecially the younger ones and the B team material with potential - to play in Italy for a few years before chasing big contracts.

    You are somehow correct, but sources I have spoken with have told me the contracts in Turkey with regard to the professional leagues in basketball and volleyball are less lucrative since around 2-3 years back. He said the star players atm in the Turkish league merely obtain like 50% of the previous amounts, that is, a player like Zhu Ting who made 1m usd some years ago could only expect something like 500k maximum nowadays. But you are right about the fact that a lot of players such as Glinka, Sokolova and Skowronska landed lucrative deals in Turkey during the 2010s and that those offers were presumably a lot better than the Italian ones.

    Markovas great advantage, outside of being very tall, is that she seems to have a tremenduous reach or wingspan for her height, i.e her arms are even longer than average for someone her size. She is using her reach very well in order to hit over the block and is great at using the placement strategy in order to score. Moreover she also jumps well due to her lack of weight, she might not even weigh 75 kilo. For players such as Stysiak or Diouf, who are like 100 kilo, its difficult to be agile or jump very high. But her power is questionable and makes her liable vis-a-vis stronger opposition as a rule. I know she performed well some week ago against Vakifbank, but she is still fresh and they might not have cracked the code of how to defend her yet. Players such as Stysiak, Vargas, Boskovic, Haak, Akimova and Egonu hit harder and come across as much more explosive/stronger than Markova.