Posts by brahmin

    Himeji need only 2 set wins to keep their spot in V1 as they would get to 4 points from the two matches while Gunma could only get 2 points.


    Gunma must sweep 3-0 to go up to V1 directly. 1-1 tied on wins, tied on points 3-3, but have 4-3 sets win to be promoted.


    if Gunma win 3-1, wins, points and sets would be tied. It would then go to points ratio. Right now +9 to Himeji, so Gunma would need to outscore Himeji by 10 points to be promoted. Otherwise Himeji stays in V1 (if tied on points scored, V1 team stays up).


    With Kurobe’s 3-1 win over Route Inn basically everything we just mentioned about Himeji and Gunma is the same.


    Kurobe wins 2 sets, would reach 4 points, while Route Inn can only reach 2 points.


    Route Inn sweep 3-0 would give them sets won tiebreaker 4-3 and promote them to V1.


    if Route Inn win 3-1, tied 1-1 on wins, 3-3 points, 4-4 sets won, so points scored is the tiebreaker. Right now +18 for Kurobe, so Route Inn would have to outscore Kurobe by 19 points to be promoted to V1 in this scenario.

    https://playthegame.org/news/n…s-from-the-olympic-games/


    This is cut and pasted here. This of course was pre-Covid posted, so the money may change. However, this would cover a four year window, so hence why the FIVB is trying to make indoor and beach as popular as possible to stay in the higher paying groups. I would say some of this money goes to development work, other parts of it are to help keep the organization funded. Also hence why the CVC money to create volleyball world was needed last year after not taking in this money due to no-VNL or Olympics in 2020.
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    The IOC traditionally does not publish how it will distribute the revenues from the Olympic Games – estimated at $ 590 million for the Games in Tokyo - among the 28 permanent summer sports federations. But I can reveal this little secret here.

    In May 2019, I received a document during the ASOIF conference on the Gold Coast in Australia:

    ASOIF, the umbrella organisation for summer sports, receives $ 2.95 million.

    The 28 permanent federations are divided into five groups. The 5 visiting associations get nothing. The 28 permanent associations were unwilling to give up money – that was the deal to allow the guests to join the Olympic party.

    Group A, $ 40 million each: Athletics, Gymnastics, Aquatics.

    Group B, $ 25.95 million each: Basketball, Football, Volleyball, Tennis, Cycling.

    You can be right (in a rationale behind this decision), I checked out Paris schedule and it seems that your interpretation is correct, so the volleyball competition won't be shortened (it's still two-week tournament), but daily schedule will be much less intense.


    I personally enjoyed these marathons during Olympics to watch volleyball for 10 hours straight while simultaneously doing other stuff, lol, this is Olympics, it happens once in four years. And although it's much more convenient now, we definitely will get much less of a content.

    I will just say 10 hours of volleyball straight for 10 days, while having a regular job, is not easy. Just from the FIVB standpoint, they are almost sleeping at the venue to churn out game info, interviews, etc. Let alone is the venue near hotels. For Tokyo, Ariake and Daiba do not have a ton of hotel options, so it was at least a 20-30 minute commute each way, plus throw in the Covid restrictions, it was just a nightmare probably to be a part of. I was at least able to contribute from my home a couple of articles.

    The main reason for the shift to four team groups is as follows.


    6 team groups, 15 matches in pool play, a total of 30 matches in the pool play, 60 matches between both sexes (10 days)


    4 team groups, 6 matches in pool play, a total of 18 matches in the pool play, 36 matches between both sexes (10 days)


    Having 6 matches a day (per sex) was just bonkers. This now reduces it to 3 a day (per sex), which can be spaced out over 5 days. Also this way you could have men and women play on the same day, in the same section windows.


    Probably will be 4 matches a day (per sex), or making sure a certain pool finishes on the same day.


    Additionally, with fewer matches in the pools, you will still have tension on the last day/matches of pool play


    FIVB/Volleyball World wants more equality, this would show that they are doing it at the Olympics.


    While we may complain about it, it is good for the people working the games and at least allows them to go a little bit of rest during this hectic tournament.

    have to look at it this way

    World Champs, Olympics and VNL give you biggest bang for the buck on the points if you win or upset a team in front of you.

    However, if your team is not playing in those events, you have to win against those within your confederation.

    Just to give an example, the USA women only gained 34 points in the VNL last year 382 to 416 after the final. 17 matches, so essentially 2 points per match.

    Japan was at +30 points over the same time frame.


    So if you are moving 2-4 points a match, it would be an expected result in my mind.

    When you start seeing 6-10, 12-20 point movements in a match, then those are the upsets, but they can come back down if you don’t follow it up with another win.

    0-1 point movements are near upsets, but you still won. So neither team really moves.

    Essentially think of 30 point gaps as an entire tournament that a team would need to win a majority of their games to make a massive move up the standings.

    Getting back on topic,


    I hope this leads to doing away with the challenge/core/whatever status for the VNL.


    It's inherently unfair to any country trying to improve their teams, since VNL is such a vital factor for qualification.

    Part of the VNL (different from the World League/Grand Prix) was to ensure participation of countries. "Back in the old days (before 2010s), outside of the traditional countries, 2-3 could just switch out every year due to the cost of participating and some would choose not to play based on their results in the previous year.


    With the VNL, they wanted to ensure certain countries participated and said, we need to have challengers, aka promotion-relegation who could drop out. Good enough in world ranking or performance in the VNL and can stay based on play, while each confederation can submit teams to play-into the VNL. I think that it is fair, but also a little unfair. African teams are always at a disadvantage when trying to enter the VNL. Domestic infrastructure just is not there. CSV teams are a little better, but still fighting uphill. NORCECA, Asia and Europe are very similar and hence usually get the last spot in the VNL.


    Remember in the past that the world rankings were based on the results in World Champs, Olympics, World League/Grand Prix, World Cup and Continental Championships.


    With the new system, every match gives you a result, so if you are winning your confederation results, it will push you higher. If you do well, you should receive some potential attention in World Champs, VNL, Olympics. Maybe you pull off an upset, your points will move higher.

    Japan will try to host both the men and women, I have a feeling. Fuji or TBS need some volleyball content. and with it only being 7 matches, it will cost less than the tournament before.


    USA would have to drop a ton points to not be a host. You think that with the players the USA has on offer, that it will drop that far, I don't think so.

    Yanagida getting screwed again in the last two years..Sadly too many younger players also in his position, who may be better.


    A team in my opinion is:

    Yuki Ishikawa OH

    Kentaro Takahashi (should have been in front of Yamauchi in Tokyo) MB

    Taishi Onodera MB

    Masahiro Sekita S

    Ran Takahashi OH

    Yuji Nishida OPP

    Tomohiro Yamamoto L


    Rounding out the 14

    Kento Miyaura OPP

    Haku Lee MB

    Tomohiro Ogawa L

    Masaki Oya S

    Kenta Takanashi OH (good balance when the offense is not Kurek)

    Yuki Higuchi OH (has done well for Sakai)

    Shunichiro Sato MB (not a fan of Yamauchi's work recently)

    Russia at this point is an afterthought due to the war, so their points will be dropping. Would be in without the war in my mind.


    For the Top Two in the Pools, I think that avid is right on the teams.


    For the remaining teams

    Africa will be Cameroon/Kenya

    Japan will probably be around 7-10 zone

    DR will probably be in the 7-12 zone

    Germany 9-12

    Netherlands is going to be all over the place and will really depend on the results of 2022 World Champs as a start point for them. Losing a great generation and then a sprint through Euro Qualification/Champs in 2023, which should put them in after VNL...

    Poland should also being the 9-12 range.


    I think that any team outside of that will have to have really outperformed or seen one-two of the teams above collapse, those that could pounce

    Belgium

    Canada

    Puerto Rico

    South Korea

    Thailand

    Argentina

    Colombia

    Here is the playoff schedule:


    Final 3 Match

    April 9, Toray vs. Hisamitsu

    Best of 2 series, Toray with a 1-0 advantage due to better regular season record

    If Hisamitsu win, 25 point Golden Set is played


    Finals

    April 10. JT Marvelous vs. Final 3 winner

    April 16, JT Marvelous vs. Final 3 winner

    2 match series, only wins count, if tied at 1-1 win each, 25 point Golden Set is played


    Challenge Matches

    April 9 & 10

    Victorina Himeji vs. Gunma Bank Green Wings

    Kurobe Aquafairies vs. Route Inn Brilliant Aries

    2 match series with the following tiebreakers:

    1. Wins

    2. Points (3,2,1,0)

    3. Sets Ratio

    4. Points Ratio

    5. If 1-4 are tied, V1 team is declared the winner as they would be higher ranked position in the league at the end of the regular season