Posts by Realista

    Nothing against but he already wrote that three remaining candidates are Barbolini, Lavarini and Santarelli 😅

    Pasini has maaaaany good info and many trash info, it's still a good sign if he says that something will happen, because there's some probability this is correct. :lol:


    But jokes aside, Santarelli is an obvious candidate considering his chemistry with Wolosz and overall hype, he was eager to work for Croatia, so I don't think his financial expectations are high either. We'll see, it's very likely tho.

    Vissotto was decisive at early stage of his NT career, he was amazing both in WL final in 2009 against Serbia and in medal phase games at WCH a year after, but then has had many health issues after 2010, not only related to these heart problems, but in general (eg. got injured in London in QF), ad I think that is a main reason why he didn't succeed as much as he could've on NT level, IIRC at some point Rezende even took Evandro as a backup of Wallace over LV because he was more stable. But yeah, it is really impressive how good he still is after all these years.

    Santarelli and Lavarini are obviously really great choices, and Chiappini obviously has a really great agent to be alongside them. Antiga is like between, he would be an upgrade, but IMHO still pretty disappointing choice.

    Btw. it looks like Nwakalor has finally found some proper consistency, she had one awful game, but her 2nd-worst performance this season statistically is 24 points on 38% spike% in 5 sets against Conegliano, the only problem of her is that she has pretty weak serve for a player on her position but everything other than that seems to be on point. Mingardi is playing suprisingly great as well.


    It's great for everyone but cro that Conegliano lost a game, it's even fine for Imoco because maybe Egonu finally gets a break at some point when Conegliano doesn't need to fight for a victory in every game possible, it's odd to see her padding 25-30 points in these meaningless games regularly after that exhausting period that she's had past 12 months.

    I think he meant making that amount just out of personal sponsorship, not as a salary from the club

    Yeah. Perhaps I'm wrong, because those Turkish players like Ebrar or Zehra have solid amount of social media followers and maybe Midwesternvb was implying that they can make some serious money from individual sponsorship, but I believe there's an equivalent of a scale effect in those type of deals, and if you're a big star, you can earn more money from outside of sport cooperation than from your base salary, but if not, then these sponsorships are just add-ons to your club earnings. And, again, maybe I'm just wrong, but while Egonu is a big star in comparison to her peers, I don't think she's that big of a star in general, neither she gets that big financial support to mention it as a serious argument in favor of her staying in IT.


    In Poland we're pretty obsessed with volleyball because, uhm, we're not too good in sports in general, and yet we can't afford to have best Polish players in a local league (although Plusliga is pretty great, we just can't pay top-tier salary to best players), so I don't believe it works this way. Not to mention that this logic suggests that Egonu's personal sponsorships are correlated with her playing at home, and it also seems to me to be an oversimplification.

    I don't think any volleyball player in Europe can make a significant money (let's say over 150-200k, what's probably still too high estimation) from sponsorship agreements and donors outside of volleyball, Egonu has like 250k followers on instagram, it's a fine number for volleyball, but it's not being a big star in general. Zaytsev has like 800k followers on instagram and is very popular as well in Italy, and it was much more affordable for him to play in Russia instead of Italy.

    So if that's a case and Egonu will be oferred twice as big contract as she has in Conegliano currently, then I don't think there are big chances she'll stay in Italy. Keep in mind that last year only Fenerbahce in crisis was bidding for Egonu with Eczaci/Vakif having Boskovic and Haak, this time not only Fener have rebuilt themselves very well, but it looks like Vakif is willing to bid for her as well. But who knows, maybe Conegliano finds some extra funds.


    Seeing Bosko/Haak/Egonu in Turkish top3 would be quite fascinating tbh.

    Aaaaaaaaaand Pasini says that Fenerbahce's offer would be 6 mln euro for 4 years (I guess 1,5 a year), while Vakifbank is a serious option as well. The talks will be allegedly conducted after CWCH.


    https://dal15al25.gazzetta.it/…rio-turco-per-paola-egonu


    And yeah, it's a poor situation from Haak's standpoint if that's true, imagine a situation that in January everyone will write that deal with Egonu to Vakif is done, and what Haak could think while still having all major trophies in Europe to be played to the end of the season. But I remember last year that in male Polish league in December we've already known that best players of Zaksa Kędzierzyn Koźle (Toniutti, Kochanowski, Zatorski) in the next season will play in different clubs (Resovia, Jastrzębski), what was btw insane that the transfer market started like in November :lol:, and yet they won a CL title, so maybe these players are just professionals knowing this business well.


    I don't think Haak will leave Turkey regardless of Egonu's decision tho.

    Pasini says that the next coach will be from Italy (Barbolini, Lavarini, Santarelli).


    https://dal15al25.gazzetta.it/…la-polonia-sara-italiano/


    I think that Barbolini from from perspective of people who make this decision may be much more interesting choice than from geeks-perspective: he has won everything in a club volleyball, has ton of experience and has won a lot with NT as well, so if someone isn't that much into tracking international volleyball on regular basis, for those people Barbolini may turn out to be a better option than Santarelli and Lavarini. And he's not a bad choice, esp in comparison to our Polish wizards, but you can't get better than Lavarini or Santarelli realistically not having top resources/top NT.

    I read on Pasini's blog that Piacenza refused to give them Stern

    Yeah, to be honest, unless there's some buyout clause in Stern's contract, I don't think Piacenza will allow him to leave until they receive some golden offer from Russia. Firstly, Piacenza has a really big budget, and these buyouts in volleyball in most cases aren't too high (150k-200k at best, only Giannelli and Voronkov from a recent memory are contrary examples), and secondly - Lagumdzija is still very inconsistent as an opposite, he has had some from-hero-to-zero streak of performances this season, and Stern has played regularly as a sub past few games, and he even received an MVP award against Cisterna, so it's not like he doesn't get a chance to play at all.


    Regardless, Vibo Valentia with an absence of Nishida is in really difficult spot, they're 2-6 as for now, and in next four games they'll play against Monza, Perugia, Padova and Piacenza to finish the 1st phase of regular season, until they find a decent replacement, only this game against Padova would be winnable, and Padova so far has played much better this season than VV with Nishida.

    Yes, Nishida got his calf injured in a game against Civitanova after he landed awkwardly on court after his attack motion. I don't think it is that serious (although it is rumored that Vibo Valentia, alongside Kuzbass, wants to acquire Stern from Piacenza, where Lagumdzija is, theoretically, a starting opposite), but these injuries in general are really troublesome. On another forum I once read a wise comment, that was a quote from some Russian coach (? I don't remember correctly), that those smaller, but jumpy players who base their style of play on vertical jump, jump high, but not for long. In other words, when you play on OPP position with such a big load as opposites regularly get in terms of number of spikes, it is really hard to maintain your physical shape on top level for a long time. We see that clearly on examples of Poletaev, who is injured for 50% of time, or Wlazły, who barely played for two seasons for NT since he was 25. And I'm really afraid that it may be a case with Nishida as well, who is even bigger outlier than Poletaev or Wlazły regarding his dependence on his vertical jump, and his body being even more sensitive and exposed to any physical stress. He's deadly fun to watch, so I hope he'll be fine, but it will be reaaaaallly demanding for Nishida not to get overuse in both club and NT in a near future.

    Good move for him, although Bottolo is a leader of Padova and one OH spot is probably reserved for him, both Loeppky and Petrov are very inconsistent, and Padova as a team struggles in reception (Bottolo is their best receiver, and he's definitely not a great receiver, lol), so he may find some playing time very early despite his young age.


    On the other hand, Nishida's injury is more serious than it was anticipated earlier and it is possible he'll stay away from playing for a month.

    https://dal15al25.gazzetta.it/…rta-milionaria-per-paola/


    Pasini says Fenerbahce casually offers Egonu a million-value contract, bigger than Vakif. Who knows what will happen, but the Fedorovtsev-Egonu duo would be a serious cheat mode, imagine Fener this year with Egonu in place of Lazareva. :gone: It was really smart to give contracts to these young players, esp Arina, so Fener as a club may be much more interesting choice for the next season than they were a year ago.

    Yeah, and it seems that this contract was terminated by mutual agreement, so these health issues are probably more serious, you're leaving your club on those conditions either because you're done playing or you want to go play somewhere else, but I don't think you can find a decent club in December.


    But I wonder if this allegation is any legit that his agent covered those problems, I remember Alan playing really well in VNL as a sub (as I see, 56% of spike efficiency if those games), and he played one-two amazing games at the beginning of the season.


    Nevertheless, this is not a good beginning of the season for Brazilians playing abroad.

    Damn, this is disastrous season for Vibo Valentia as for now: I thought they may be a dark horse of the competition, but in fact they're 11th in a table, Nishida got injured against Civitanova, Mauricio Borges is awful, Douglas is very mediocre, Flavio is playing fine, but doesn't get enough balls from Saitta. if Baldovin doesn't get fired already, it is only related to the absence of Nishida.


    On the other hand, Mozic is one of the best players of Superliga already as 19yo kid, wow.

    It's interesting that both Davyskibas (Hanna and her husband) have very similar characteristic as players, they're both equally talented and obviously share nationality, name and club as well. :)


    Monza has some serious depth among spikers, it is quite impressive how good they play considering that Gennari-Mihajlovic duo was considered as a starting one before this season. But both Van Hecke and Stysiak are weak today, Orro wasn't too helpful, but it's inexplicable.

    IMO Bruno was way better.

    Yeah, I remember Bruno having a fantastic season in Modena in 2011 when he joined them for the playoffs after Mikko Esko got injured. And it is tricky, because Bruno made a big progress in 2012 in NT when Ricardinho returned to the NT, he was by far the best setter in London OG. Cachopa will be 26 in two months. :)


    I like Cachopa though, but I don't think staying in Brazil for too long is good for development considering a level of the league currently. But he's still very young for a male setter, and sooner or later he'll get his chances as a starter in NT, it's not like he has any competition.

    who is going to tell them Egonu is not an Olympics MVP :lol::lol:

    worldofvolley is a mess :lol:

    I think this is also eguno's last season with conegliano. Vakifbank or fenerbache might be her next team? Haak to conegliano?

    Theoretically, yeah, Vakifbank would've been at least on par with Conegliano '21 with Egonu, and IMHO with better core of OHs, with less demanding league to play in, and probably with higher salary, so there's lot of reasons to make that move considering she's already won everything with Imoco, but Wołosz said recently in the interview that she's never witnessed in any club atmosphere like in Conegliano, so there are less obvious circumstances that may matter.


    But I guess these rumors are pointless at this point of the season, it is quite obvious that any team would've been interested in Egonu. :lol:

    I completely agree. They really need to increase that to 4 foreigners on court allowed at the same time. That created an advantage to Italian teams and as we see, it didnt influence the development of their NT either, actually had a reverse effect where they do better recently.


    Mathematically it also makes sense. Yes, Turkish NT is one of the top 5 in the world and have 12-14 valuable players but if you distribute 4 players in each team (3 are needed on court), only 3-4 teams can have solid local players, rest have to fill in their squads with whoever they find. In a league of 14 teams, if you want better competition, you should definitely change the foreign player limit. Other option is to reduce number of teams to 12 or 10.

    Yeah, I think there is no correlation between a limit of foreigners and a level of development of local players, in fact, considering Tokyo results, there is no correlation between league strength and a level of NT neither. But because it cannot be empirically proven -- every situation is different -- anytime one country is dissatisfied with their level of NT (and I guess Turkey wants to develop further than regular ECH medals), there is a temptation to raise those limits in order to give more playing time to local players. But as you already mentioned, does it make such difference if there is 42 starting spots for local players rather than 56? I don't think so. In Italy, referring to the male league, there are regular discussions that the limits should be more strict, but I don't think that's a reason why there's no (or there wasn't, because recently it's changed) a group of up-and-coming young talents.


    Italy has deeper pool of local players with few stars better, so as long as they are able to hire competitive foreigners to Turkish clubs, with more liberal limits, they'll have a strong handicap for no benefits from Turkish site, IMHO.