Posts by andyivan

The way you look down on Chinese/Asain players make you look so silly.

Chinese MB Xu yunli and YanNi have great blocking skills.
They have shown in the World Cup and Rio.

And Zhang Chang Ning would also have success in European Clubs

Even not in very top clubs at least in some competitive Clubs

Quote from Shiznut81

remind me again who did beat brazils butt for years when gamova was around?u have certain generations which are better then others,none of the chinese players would have any succsses in europe exept zhu and that is a fact and reason why european clubs are not intrested in asian players in general exept if they are liberoes or setters somtimes team harmony means more then how many world class players u have just look to ecz this year in cl

Can't believe RC Cannes performed poorly like that in front of the home crowd.
I thought after the last victory they had over Vakifbank, they would have gain confidence.

The receptions of RC were bad and the setter Apitz could not really create varieties to the spiking.

On the other hand, Vakif did good job on blocking. Congrats to them.

Saori cannot hit high and slow balls, she doesn't have the strong body and the height to hit.
GS should have known for that.

Similarly you cannot set fast short and low balls to Montano to hit.

I hope the connection between Leo and Saori can improve.

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Let's face it, after many years that the same teams in Europe dominated (in no particular order: Italy, Russia, Poland, Serbia, Netherlands, Turkey and Germany), new teams catched them. The hierarchies are not the same anymore.
Europe has at least 12 good teams, while other continents have few excellent or good teams (North America = 2, South America = 1, Asia = 4) and the rest are low level teams.

At least 12 good teams in Europe??
Are you kidding me?
Right now only Russia, Italy, Serbia, Turkey, Germany and Bulgaria can fight against strong teams from other continents.

Poland and Netherlands are flopping a lot. They can win the very weak team but cannot win other stronger teams.
Even Germany quite often would lose to the strong teams and struggle against middle-level teams.

You can win other European teams doesn't mean you can cope with styles from other continents.

Some people here are just so arrogant
Chinese main players already played five sets again Japan
Especially Zhu Ting it was mainly her against Japan
She is clearly tired

Also Lang Ping obviously is testing the line up
Even with the main players China is no way to beat Brazil 3:0 or 3:1
Jenny already said that she aimed at winning the Asain Championship
You can see now China and Japan already played five sets in the last three meetings
Japan will be the most difficult one for China and there are also Korea and Thailand
The last tim China won the Asain Championship was 2005 sure China want the championships back

Its so hilarious and pathetic saying that Serbia keeping the main players is correct because of ECH
Obviously only Russia and Italy can make trouble to Serbia and other teams no chance
So Serbia is right coz it is European team and China is wrong coz it is Asain team??

I really cannot stand Hui Ruo Qi, so weak attack, weak defense

Zhu Ting + Wang Yi Mei + Zhang Lei will be the best for China

Serbia is really strong,
probably would win the final round!

Turkey has herself to blame,
shouldn't have lost a point to DR

I found that some Turkish posters are quite sour grapes, talking about ECH is coming soon
Its not good to be in the final,playing against team from other continents is not helpful bla bla bla

I mean my god at the beginning you should request your team not to play in WGP dont waste the spot.
Or ask your team withdraw even they can qualify to the final round.

I mean Turkey doesnt have much advantages not only with European strong teams like Russia Serbia and Italy but also strong teams from other continents such as China Japan and Korea with Kim playing, USA as well as Brazil

Some posters have mistakenly thinking that Turkey is top three in the world.

I think the final 6 would be

Japan (host)

These four have a brighter road to the final
Brazil
China
Serbia
USA

The last spot is between Italy Russia and Turkey
Russia has the highest chance

Will Kim really play for Ecz???
Will be good to see that.

Quote from serdar

As I said Wei is an exceptional setter (almost as good as Feng Kun) however Naz had phenomenal block and serving contribution to her team which is a remarkable characteristic distinguishing her from other good setter.

Ognjenoviç is a setter which I admire a lot, nevertheless, due to her love story she ruined herself and doesnot even half of Naz's career. (She is playing in a mediocre team in Polish League, I did not watch her this year yet but from my observation in last 2-3 years she is in a down state of her career) Thus, to me , she did not prove anything indicating that she is THE BEST in the world.

About Berg, with all respect to her career and great performance in last OG, do you really think that she is a great shape? She did not show anything special in last Fener-Vakıf match. Although Berg has very good attackers as well, Naz obviously outclassed her in every FB-Vakıfbank match ups.

To be clear, I want to stress that my claim is valid for the moment, I am not comparing Naz with previous outstanding setters (I wil in a few years )

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Wei has a very good serve, she can destroy opponent's receive.
she can also block well.

Naz has many things to do to catch up with the top setters in the world.
she is more dependent on the attackers

Quote from Shiznut81

Takeshita Ognjenovic Antonijevic Tomkom Berg

I would say are Takeshita, Wei ,Tomkom ,Lo Biano ,Berg

Quote from ErolGarip

For me, Naz hasn't proved anything yet. She has been lucky in playing at very good teams in last 2-3 years. If Nilay played as starter at Fener last year or at Vakif this year, Fener last year and Vakif this year could be still CEV champions. So, Naz hasn't really done any special thing yet. We had seen her at Olympic, with not a very good team, Turkey NT and she failed there. I'd say "get rid of Naz out of Vakif" if she were an old setter, but, she is only 22, so, she has credit. Other than her young age, of course, she has some other advantages such as tallness, block-ability and some smartness in front of net, but, she is like slow motion with predictable settings. She hasn't shown speed, variety, etc yet. She has best setter awards twice? Well, those awards don't mean much as usually some players from winner team are awarded and these awards given by CEV are usually about CEV politics (marketing, PR, etc.) Normally, Gozde should definitely have been awarded this year as her contribution of Gozde to Vakif success has been more than Naz. If Gozde was awarded, Naz wouldn't have got any award. Or, Brakocevic wouldn't have gotten any award if Gozde was awarded. So, it was an injustice to Gozde, but, she doesn't complain about that and that's why she is a good captain.

Ya, when talking about top 5 setters in the world, it is really none of her business.
She was lucky to have Kim and Sokolova last year. It was all about Kim and Sokolova last year, her sets didn't really matter.
This year the same.

Quote from serdar

I will try my best to be kind as much as I can by replying you, however you should know that it is really hard to put up with your arrogance and insolence!

First of all, if you really look at my profile you should also realize that Saori one of my favorite players in the world. That's why do not even there to impute me to be malevolent or biased against her! Logic of transferring Saori is simply the fact that she wants to have another challenge in Europe and Guidetti wants to utilize her defensive and reception skills, moreover, Kim's unexpected success also must give him hope (Kim has unique physical ability which most of other Asian players lack) However, Saori has never been planned to play as starter since Guidetti wants to play with Gözde with tow strong attacker (previously Glinka and Nikoliç) so it would not make any sense to play Saori and Gözde at the same time on the court. Saori did not show impressive performance whenever she got chance (don't tell me that she does not get enough sets from Naz, or she does not get a chance to play! Polen and Fürst played almost as much as Saori did, yet still they show impressive performance! Even Güldeniz helped more whenever she entered the game ) Besides, Saori's reception performance also was disappointing. Thus, she transferred as a reserved player to Vakıf yet she did not contribute enough. That's why signing with her would make no sense. (your claim regarding 'Saori is Guidetti's future project' is just a conspiracy theory! there is no interview or sign referring that idea)

By the way, your snubness is making me laugh, you allege that your every word is logical whereas mine is illogical since I don't agree your idea? How stupid circular reasoning is this

Lastly about Kim, first thing you should get into your head is the fact that, as Matthias has stated before, Kim is a human being and saying money is her biggest concern is a huge assumption! She has different priorities as she proved that by signing with FB this season although they did not play CL and she has plenty good offers. In addition, she stress that she would never play in any other Turkish team but Fenerbahçe. Wrong or right but this is her loyalty to club and she showed this many many time Let's assume that she decided to leave FB, she would have better option such as Kazan, Rabita or Vakıf which are more charming. Vakıf has better coach than Eczacı, also there will be a better setter who Kim already had great connection etc. All in all, I don't believe that Kim will resign her contract with FB and although she would, she won't transfer to Eczacı

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You keep on saying Saori is bad, poor performances, bla bla bla.
Have you considered what kind of player Saori is?
She plays with speed, varieties, and you require her to play with high and power balls?
Are you crazy?
We all know that Saori isn't that type of player with power.
Do you know why Saori is so successful in Japan NT?
Do you see the differences of Takeshita and Naz?
Saori really didn't have much chances to hit the balls. And this is her first season outside a fast and variety- system team.

You should really make sure of the facts before you post stupid things.

Kim will probably stay in FB next year, seems like she loves FB so much.
FB would not keep Paula based on her performances this year.
FB need a better hitter
As a setter, Berg is doing ok since she isn't spending much time in the team so far.

Besides, I really don't want Saori stay in VB if Naz is keeping setting the ball like that.
VB doesn't suit Saori and Saori doesn't suit VB.

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Just replace Glinka by Polen. Not much difference anymore as Glinka is slowly retiring, leaving responsibility of scroring to Brako more and now, Polen too. This year, we didn't need her reception of Glinka, either we were hiding her or replacing by Saori. Guidetti has started to use the bench more and more this year, so, next year, I won't be surprised full rotations during the games. So, Polen or Brako won't be needed for any reception as they too will sit in the bench when rotating. Vakif/Guidetti showed some signs already that Vakif isn't a 6 player team anymore and we'll see more of this rotation next year, hence, I am saying Saori will definitely stay at Vakif next year as she fits Guidetti's future Vakif team which will rotate a lot during the games. And, there are youths like Kubra, etc too. It is not easy to keep all these good players including youths at a team without having them play, hence, continuous rotations. This year, Guidetti's main target is Turkey league as he never won it. Therefore, he isn't doing radical changes at this moment not to disturb the team. Once Vakif wins Turkey league too, Guidetti will focus a new game style, fast volley, more rotations, etc.

But why are you so sure about Saori staying next year?

VB is not playing fast and lack of variety. I think the volleyball's world knows Saori has to play with speed and variety. Guidetti obviously didn't think about that.

When you watch VB's match, Naz is obviously wouldn't give the ball to her even when other attackers are in poor/wrong position for attacking, she even keep setting the ball to the same attackers for twice or three times when they were blocked. You think that's Guidetti tells Naz to do that?

If Saori can't fit into this team, I cannot see her stay and Guidetti also wouldn't keep her.
When Glinka retires, VB needs to find an attacker that can hit the ball from Naz's setting, maybe Skowronska.

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To be a great volleyball player, you have to have both a very good technique and strength....if you have only power you can still do a good job like (calderon) but if you have a very good technique and lacks power (like Saori)...its hard for you to be the leader of a team like VB in Europe.But Vb has Brako,Polen and Nikolic this allows Saori to stay in VB otherwise,its impossible!!

It is unfair to say calderon only has power, she also has technique, she knows how to use her power, but just because her technique is overwhelmed by her power.

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Algeria will face tough hard time to play with Japan, Turkey twice, Thailand (Not so hard), USA, Serbia, Netherland (Not so hard), Italy, Dominican (Not so hard).
Good luck!!!

Thailand not so hard??
Are you serious?????

I think only China and Dominican Republic would use A team.