Posts by phoenix1

Quote from Matthias

So I just checked Freisen's match in question. In their starting seven they have a German setter, German OH and German libero. In the first set against BBSC Berlin, they replaced the German OH with a foreign player for the last few points of the set. Apparently the rules posted above don't apply for starting six plus libero but for actual "players on court" which is probably what broke their neck. If the libero hadn't left the court while the foreign OH was on, nothing would have happened, but now it seems they'll lose the match because of that

I have checked this. With the score at 20:24, the Freisen libera leaves the field and only one German player is left.

Quote from Franki

3 games from Second league pro will have another result. Vilsbiburg Freisen and Starubing have to much foreign players on the court.

Is there a source for the sanction imposed?

Quote from Matthias

So I just checked Freisen's match in question. In their starting seven they have a German setter, German OH and German libero. In the first set against BBSC Berlin, they replaced the German OH with a foreign player for the last few points of the set. Apparently the rules posted above don't apply for starting six plus libero but for actual "players on court" which is probably what broke their neck. If the libero hadn't left the court while the foreign OH was on, nothing would have happened, but now it seems they'll lose the match because of that

OTOH Vilsbiburg and Straubing in their respective matches played large parts of the match with 5 foreigners out of 7 players and libero being one of two German players, so whenever the libero was off they didn't have two German players on court. I guess this rule is worth discussing in general, I think all leagues that use foreign player limits use starting six plus libero as base.

Is there a source for the sanction imposed?

I can't believe that the 2. Liga Pro in Germany has no restrictions on the use of non-German players. When I look at Freisen's squad, I have to wonder how the German teams in the Bundesliga are ever going to develop athletes with aspirations for the national team.

https://www.volleyball-bundesl…amsCmsComponent_766577326

I tried to find out what kind of roster of German players is actually required by the licence statute of the league. I would have expected the league to encourage and therefore demand the use of German players, especially for the women's 2nd Bundesliga Pro. I have not found a definitive figure. Can anyone help me to find such a regulation? thank you

Quote from Matthias

With the season starting I decided to take a small step out of my hiatus and return at least to sharing info about German league.

Thank you, Mathias. This thread needs you and your knowledge!

Quote from Marisaala

Btw. Is Potsdam complete? They only have 10 players?

there was no message in the newspapers, that the team is complete. Maybe we'll see any surprise in the next weeks.

US-MB Sabrina Starks from Chamalières to Potsdam
https://www.sc-potsdam.de/voll…sich-amerikanerin-starks/

Eleanor Holthaus from Suhl to Potsdam
https://www.sc-potsdam.de/voll…enangriff-des-sc-potsdam/

Quote from Gymnicus

Grimma is also still looking for players for their team and is doing so publicly on Instagram. At least the situation there must not be quite as bad as it is in Stralsund.

Teammanager of Grimma: I said before last season that it had never been so difficult. Unfortunately, it's even more difficult this year due to less financial resources in the Bundesliga, but also due to a new professional league in the USA.
https://www.vv-grimma.de/v4/?site=newsitem&nid=1950&p=1

https://www.rbb24.de/sport/bei…dam-insolvenz-pleite.html

Quote from Matthias

Suhl's press writes that except for Roosa Laakkonen, all players are going to leave the club The full article is paywalled though, so no further details. Someone can help?

Quote from Gymnicus

The article Provoziert Hollosy seinen Abgang? published yesterday by inSüdthüringen, which is unfortunately hidden behind a paywall, is not only about a possible Hollosy departure, but the article is also said to mention the rumor that Vedrana Jakšetić could move to Schwerin, where she would then probably succeed Pia Kästner.

Freies Wort, suhl:

"Laszlo Hollosy, on the other hand, still has a contract with VfB Suhl until 2025 and is regarded as a committed, uncompromising coach who makes players better. However, the 47-year-old, who lives in Erfurt, is completely dissatisfied with the personnel situation, which has been tense practically since the start of the season. Was perfectionist Hollosy just trying to shake things up with his statements in the newspaper interview or even provoke his departure?"

Confiirmation news about transfers from the Volleyball Bundesliga to the US professional league:

Grace Frohling and Tia Jimerson (DSC), Alexis Hart (25, Allianz MTV Stuttgart), Justine Wong-Orantes (28, SC Potsdam) and Zoe Fleck (23, USC Münster).

In addition to former DSC player Madison Bugg (29), German national player Kimberly Drewniok (26) will play in the States.

https://www.tag24.de/sport/vol…-top-spielerinnen-3143246

Quote from Gymnicus

The loss of these two experienced players is of course a big blow to the young Borken team.

Although volleyball is a team sport, it has to be said that Anika Brinkmann and Zaneta Baran made the decisive difference in many games. With their powerful serve and attacking shots, these two have characterised Borken's attacking game in recent years.

https://www.mdr.de/sport/volle…weitliga-meister-100.html

Quote from Gymnicus

For me, the Skurios Volleys Borken are one of the negative surprises of the season. Of course, the team has changed from last season, but a core of seven players remained from last season. Other teams don't have that. But there are said to have been quarrels within the club before the season or at the end of the last season and as a result of this there was a separation from the long-time assistant coach and promotion supporter Markus Friedrich, who is now leading the TuB Bocholt into the top group of the 2nd Bundesliga North in the men's area. Just a side note.

Please don't forget that many key players have left the team (Brinkmann, Baran, Müller-Scheffsky). Managing such a radical change requires a lot of long-term work and a lucky hand in recruiting new staff.

And unlike in previous years, Borken was not able to strengthen the team with foreigners at will. In every team in the 2nd Bundesliga Pro, at least half of the players entered on the match report sheet must belong to the DVV (German Volleyball Association), i.e. they must have learnt to play volleyball in Germany. They must also include two junior players (age group U23 or younger). During a match, it is also necessary that at least two players from the DVV association of origin are on the court at all times.

Quote from StefanS

Maybe she didn't feel well in Thuringia as a black woman? Just guessing.

Why this? Suhl has had many foreigners for decades (from Sheri Williams to Danielle Harbin) and has also repeatedly signed coloured people as players. Thuringians, like Swabians, are very hospitable people.

Quote from StefanS

There are big differences between men's and women's leagues now: women have now a second Germany wide league for the first time with the stronger and more ambitious clubs, which made already a first step, compared the men's split second leagues are still pure amateur ones with lower requirements. And the ascend of the winner is also only enforced in women's new second pro league now, not in the men's split leagues.

The 2nd Liga Pro for women is also a purely amateur league. Do you think that even the players of one team can even begin to earn a living from volleyball?

Quote from Gymnicus

I want to warn against dreaming that next year the league will have 14 teams again. Currently,

The publication seems to me that the VBL was more concerned with propagating a positive mood than with an honest assessment of the probability of promotion for second division teams.