Turkey looks like a completely different team compared to OG quals
Playing at home. There is the difference. Therefore European OG qual. should be played at neutral ground for all teams.
Posts by mariuszj1939
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Stysiak Stysiak Stysiak !!!
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What? Yes, there was a bidding process but only because the original hosts declined.
What I remember bid was open for all participated countries. I saw also somwhere on FIVB page bid's pdf document.
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The best teams in each pool are the hosts. A few NTs declined because of the costs to hold the event, including Brazil.
Not true !
There was bidding proces arranged by our lovely FIVB. It means better funds spent = nominated host !
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3:0 one of the best game Poland!
Leon was great but the rest of team played very well and they were concentrated till the end.
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There will be always dissapointed team(s).
It doesn't matter because of referee, schedule, injury, long fly, tactics (2nd squad playing) or tournament strange system (see WCH 2010 "better to lose" Brazil-Bulgaria 0:3 or ECH 2011 Poland-Slovakia 1:3) etc.
Unfortunately, we'll not change it !!! Please send petition to FIVB/CEV etc instead of blaming one or another federation. There is a right place where rules are agreed and FINALLY accepted.
If you want to comment it once again go ahead but I prefer to comment pure volleyball and qualification.
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Every host sets the schedule or the draw as per their best interest. But a demonstration of fair play and sportsmanship requires them to beat their opponents fairly and to provide them with enough time to prepare for the matches in the best possible way. This is a principle not only in sports but in life as well. Poland, as well as the ones mentioned by you (for which I don't know and can't say anything), failed to do so, thus breaking major, granted postulates. Neither Poland, nor the ones back then should be left unnoticed. The fact that it happened to Poland already in the past doesn't make it alright. It happened to many teams in many countries and qualifiers, yet the schedules are mostly fair. And last, as I said earlier, the outcome is still unclear because these are top athletes but also people who might react accordingly in such scenarios. Even this schedule guarantees Poland nothing, yet it is wrong for a number of reasons.
Have I cried on the forum last year ?
WCH 2018 - Bulgaria set group stage schedule in such way to take the whole day rest before Bulgaria - Poland match and pushed Poland to play in the evening before against strong Iran.
Was it fair or not ? I have so many examples but ... it's enough.
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Counting other people's sins does not make you a saint.
It is lack of sportsmanship. Period.
Believe me or not France or other country as organizer would set schedule as per their best option. Is it true or not ?
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Dear Yavor,
Such discussion is too long.
As organizer Poland had a right to set schedule accordingly. It was accepted by FIVB. France did not spent money for bid.
What I remember from "old history" of OG qualifications :
-1992 Netherlands as organizer lost against Poland but there was such new system Poland had to play once again with them next day in Final so v.strong Netherland qualified
- 2004 Portugal as organizer set aircondition system to such high level /or switched off/ ball was wet and game interrupted many times finally Poland qualified
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I feel really bad for Poland, they played very well but at the end they screwed up and just couldn't make it🇮🇩❤️💪🏻
Tbh I didn't know Poland could be such a good team(i never watched them) but this year they really surprised me and they become one of my fav teams. They just miss a good OH.
I agree some players just need more experiance. There wiil be progress as more girls start playing in Italian league. Today Poland played v.good against WCh.
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I can not believe Bednorz did not make it. I like Kwolek but he struggles offensively sometimes. I just feel like Bednorz can be more of a threat.
And no Kochanowski???
.....Klos was great at VNL finals....but I would pick Kochanowski over him.Sorry to say, Heynen needs experiance for this tournament. Bednorz was good RECENTLY but he is no my type of player.
I really like Kochanowski but … see other MBs - no comments.
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- Group A
Serbia - Thailand 3-0
Poland - Puerto Rico 3-0
Serbia - Puerto Rico 3-0
Thailand - Poland 1-3
Puerto Rico - Thailand 0-3
Serbia - Poland 2-3
Group B
China - Czech Republic 3-0
Turkey - Germany 3-1
Germany - Czech Republic 3-0
China - Turkey 3-1
Czech Republic - Turkey 0-3
China - Germany 3-1
Group C
Argentina - Bulgaria 1-3
USA - Kazakhstan 3-0
USA - Bulgaria 3-0
Kazakhstan - Argentina 1-3
USA - Argentina 3-0
Kazakhstan - Bulgaria 0-3
Group D
Brazil - Cameroon 3-0
Dominican Republic - Azerbaijan 3-1
Brazil - Azerbaijan 3-0
Cameroon - Dominican Republic 0-3
Brazil - Dominican Republic 3-1
Azerbaijan - Cameroon 3-0
Group E
South Korea - Canada 3-0
Russia - Mexico 3-0
South Korea - Mexico 3-0
Russia - Canada 3-0
Mexico - Canada 0-3
Russia - South Korea 3-1
Group F
Belgium - Netherlands 1-3
Italy - Kenya 3-0
Netherlands - Kenya 3-0
Belgium - Italy 0-3
Kenya - Belgium 0-3
Netherlands - Italy 1-3
- Group A
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- Group A
Brazil - Puerto Rico 3-0
Egypt - Bulgaria 0-3
Brazil - Egypt 3-0
Puerto Rico - Bulgaria 0-3
Egypt - Puerto Rico 3-1
Bulgaria - Brazil 1-3
Group B
Netherlands - South Korea 3-0
Belgium - USA 0-3
Belgium - Netherlands 3-2
USA - South Korea 3-0
Netherlands - USA 0-3
South Korea - Belgium 0-3
Group C
Australia - Serbia 1-3
Italy - Cameroon 3-0
Serbia - Cameroon 3-0
Australia - Italy 1-3
Cameroon - Australia 0-3
Serbia - Italy 3-2
Group D
Poland - Tunisia 3-0
France - Slovenia 3-1
Poland - France 3-1
Slovenia - Tunisia 3-0
France - Tunisia 3-0
Poland - Slovenia 3-0
Group E
Iran - Cuba 3-1
Russia - Mexico 3-0
Iran - Mexico 3-0
Russia - Cuba 3-0
Cuba - Mexico 3-0
Russia - Iran 3-1
Group F
Canada - Argentina 3-2
China - Finland 1-3
Finland - Canada 1-3
China - Argentina 1-3
Argentina - Finland 3-1
China - Canada 0-3
- Group A
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Shoji as best libero as a joke. He's literally never improving. Always the same space when receiving. Never extending himself to defend.
Polish libero was more outstanding to me.
I agree !
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They deserved to get bronze ! Team with fighting spirit is what I like the best. You can lost one game but do not surrender anytime. Thank you !
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Please stop it.
I saw/remember so many OG qualification. You should just wait and see. Now discussion is useless. Strenght (mostly mental) and team spirit will decide. Additional do not underestimate hosts. So many hosts finally qualified but before qualification they were absolutely not favourites.
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What's a terrible performace of Turkish team ?
I saw some comments on forum "Polish team is hard to watch". I can just add they played hard with passion and the best possible volleyball.
How can it be compared to today's match ? I'm totally dissapointed.
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As per https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/si…ikacji-do-igrzysk-w-tokio
FIVB announced groups of tournaments.
Women
Grupa A: Serbia, Puerto Rico, Thailand, Poland
Grupa B: China, Turkey, Germany, Czech Rep.
Grupa C: USA, Argentina, Bulgaria, Kazakhstan
Grupa D: Brazil, Dominican Rep., Cameroon, Azerbaijan
Grupa E: Russia, Korea, Cnada, Mexico
Grupa F: Netherlands, Italy, Belgium, KeniaHosts to be selected till end January.
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Apparently some team decided to not take part in intercontinental OG qualification tournament and Poland will take part instead. This was told today by Polish federation. They didn't say in which group they will be yet.
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As World rankings are present http://www.fivb.org/en/volleyball/VB_Ranking_M_2018-10.asp see pools :
1/ Brazil/Egypt/Bulgaria/Puerto Rico
2/ USA/Belgium/Netherlands/Korea
3/ Italy/Serbia/Australia/Cameroon
4/ Poland/France/Slovenia/Tunisia
5/ Russia/Iran/Cuba/Mexico
6/ Canada/Argentina/Finland/China
Most balanced pool 6, most difficult 2,3 and 4.