Not e ntertaining? What the hell are you watching? Stakes are high, euro semis. Raucous french crowd. Close sets, plenty of showboating back and forth between the likes of Kovacevic and Ngapeth..this is SUPERB.
I agree ! Additionally killing blocks and some aces.
Sorry, I have to write something here. This is the Polish arrogance people here are talking about, coming from fans, players, media, and their federation. You can 'see' whatever you want in Paris, the rest of Europe/the world saw it already years ago, regardless of how the final will end. I would be waaaay more humble if my team lost 3 times in a row at, in this case, consecutive ECHs.
No, you don't need to write something is such arrogance way.
I don't care what you say about us but it must be more diplomatic if you pretent to be forum expert.
I'm volleyball fan and I played volleyball for years so I'm happy Poland is back among top 4 even they lost once again Slovenia.
One game or your comments cannot cancel previous achievement of team and federation.
Time will tell ...
What matters is their most recent performance. They didn't win only against one favourite, they did it TWICE! It wasn't like a lucky draw that could allow them skip strongest team. They have beaten two so-called strongest teams in this tournament with a convincing performance (not even playing a tie-break). It is very unfair to call their success as luck.
In history each team has one bad day in tournament (see Poland-Argentina or USA-Poland last WCH) and together with exceptional high level of opponent means surprise. I do not underestimate Slovenia but we have to see their real strenght in Paris without home crowd ???
Why is it so difficult to admit their opponent was just better? This is the reason Poland is becoming more and more disliked, they always have this idea that they're going to win everything just by showing up. Heynen's ego is not doing anything good to this team either. If they don't take a humility pill soon, they will be taught another harsh lesson at the Olympic games, where I have no doubt they will be crowned champions months before the actual tournament starts.
We've seen it happen, an easy 0:3 in the QF and 4 years of "nooo, we learned from that defeat, we're going to win gold next time for sure."
Sorry, I dislike your comments at all !!!
I sent congrats Slovenia and I expressed what I observed.
Each set was so close and Slovenia won that all. Have they played on similar level except ECH ?
PS - I do not like behaviour of one European federation (who always added strange rules on WCH) and expecially one of their player but … it's my personal feeling not published on forum.
If Slovenia finds the way to play at this level outside of the ECH they're going to do some massive damage at the OQT
I don' think so except Slovenia is nominated as host of OQT.
Congrats to Slovenia. Slovenia played today at 110 % (better than game against Russia) and Poland max 70 %.
All Polish team looked tired and too nervous. I do not know reason = transfer, own crowd or first game in new hall.
Maybe it's good Poland lost SF today. It will be good lesson for whole team before OG.
Slovenia!
Third time in a row that Poland gets eliminated by Slovenia considering the previous ECHs. QFs in 2015, 8Fs in 2017 and now SFs in 2019. Quite a feat.
Regarding ECH true but other competitions not true,
Poland won OG qualification 3:1
Turkey looks like a completely different team compared to OG quals
Playing at home. There is the difference. Therefore European OG qual. should be played at neutral ground for all teams.
Stysiak Stysiak Stysiak !!!
What? Yes, there was a bidding process but only because the original hosts declined.
What I remember bid was open for all participated countries. I saw also somwhere on FIVB page bid's pdf document.
The best teams in each pool are the hosts. A few NTs declined because of the costs to hold the event, including Brazil.
Not true !
There was bidding proces arranged by our lovely FIVB. It means better funds spent = nominated host !
3:0 one of the best game Poland!
Leon was great but the rest of team played very well and they were concentrated till the end.
There will be always dissapointed team(s).
It doesn't matter because of referee, schedule, injury, long fly, tactics (2nd squad playing) or tournament strange system (see WCH 2010 "better to lose" Brazil-Bulgaria 0:3 or ECH 2011 Poland-Slovakia 1:3) etc.
Unfortunately, we'll not change it !!! Please send petition to FIVB/CEV etc instead of blaming one or another federation. There is a right place where rules are agreed and FINALLY accepted.
If you want to comment it once again go ahead but I prefer to comment pure volleyball and qualification.
Every host sets the schedule or the draw as per their best interest. But a demonstration of fair play and sportsmanship requires them to beat their opponents fairly and to provide them with enough time to prepare for the matches in the best possible way. This is a principle not only in sports but in life as well. Poland, as well as the ones mentioned by you (for which I don't know and can't say anything), failed to do so, thus breaking major, granted postulates. Neither Poland, nor the ones back then should be left unnoticed. The fact that it happened to Poland already in the past doesn't make it alright. It happened to many teams in many countries and qualifiers, yet the schedules are mostly fair. And last, as I said earlier, the outcome is still unclear because these are top athletes but also people who might react accordingly in such scenarios. Even this schedule guarantees Poland nothing, yet it is wrong for a number of reasons.
Have I cried on the forum last year ?
WCH 2018 - Bulgaria set group stage schedule in such way to take the whole day rest before Bulgaria - Poland match and pushed Poland to play in the evening before against strong Iran.
Was it fair or not ? I have so many examples but ... it's enough.
Counting other people's sins does not make you a saint.
It is lack of sportsmanship. Period.
Believe me or not France or other country as organizer would set schedule as per their best option. Is it true or not ?
Dear Yavor,
Such discussion is too long.
As organizer Poland had a right to set schedule accordingly. It was accepted by FIVB. France did not spent money for bid.
What I remember from "old history" of OG qualifications :
-1992 Netherlands as organizer lost against Poland but there was such new system Poland had to play once again with them next day in Final so v.strong Netherland qualified
- 2004 Portugal as organizer set aircondition system to such high level /or switched off/ ball was wet and game interrupted many times finally Poland qualified
I feel really bad for Poland, they played very well but at the end they screwed up and just couldn't make it🇮🇩❤️💪🏻
Tbh I didn't know Poland could be such a good team(i never watched them) but this year they really surprised me and they become one of my fav teams. They just miss a good OH.
I agree some players just need more experiance. There wiil be progress as more girls start playing in Italian league. Today Poland played v.good against WCh.
I can not believe Bednorz did not make it. I like Kwolek but he struggles offensively sometimes. I just feel like Bednorz can be more of a threat.
And no Kochanowski???
.....Klos was great at VNL finals....but I would pick Kochanowski over him.
Sorry to say, Heynen needs experiance for this tournament. Bednorz was good RECENTLY but he is no my type of player.
I really like Kochanowski but … see other MBs - no comments.
Serbia - Thailand 3-0
Poland - Puerto Rico 3-0
Serbia - Puerto Rico 3-0
Thailand - Poland 1-3
Puerto Rico - Thailand 0-3
Serbia - Poland 2-3
Group B
China - Czech Republic 3-0
Turkey - Germany 3-1
Germany - Czech Republic 3-0
China - Turkey 3-1
Czech Republic - Turkey 0-3
China - Germany 3-1
Group C
Argentina - Bulgaria 1-3
USA - Kazakhstan 3-0
USA - Bulgaria 3-0
Kazakhstan - Argentina 1-3
USA - Argentina 3-0
Kazakhstan - Bulgaria 0-3
Group D
Brazil - Cameroon 3-0
Dominican Republic - Azerbaijan 3-1
Brazil - Azerbaijan 3-0
Cameroon - Dominican Republic 0-3
Brazil - Dominican Republic 3-1
Azerbaijan - Cameroon 3-0
Group E
South Korea - Canada 3-0
Russia - Mexico 3-0
South Korea - Mexico 3-0
Russia - Canada 3-0
Mexico - Canada 0-3
Russia - South Korea 3-1
Group F
Belgium - Netherlands 1-3
Italy - Kenya 3-0
Netherlands - Kenya 3-0
Belgium - Italy 0-3
Kenya - Belgium 0-3
Netherlands - Italy 1-3
Brazil - Puerto Rico 3-0
Egypt - Bulgaria 0-3
Brazil - Egypt 3-0
Puerto Rico - Bulgaria 0-3
Egypt - Puerto Rico 3-1
Bulgaria - Brazil 1-3
Group B
Netherlands - South Korea 3-0
Belgium - USA 0-3
Belgium - Netherlands 3-2
USA - South Korea 3-0
Netherlands - USA 0-3
South Korea - Belgium 0-3
Group C
Australia - Serbia 1-3
Italy - Cameroon 3-0
Serbia - Cameroon 3-0
Australia - Italy 1-3
Cameroon - Australia 0-3
Serbia - Italy 3-2
Group D
Poland - Tunisia 3-0
France - Slovenia 3-1
Poland - France 3-1
Slovenia - Tunisia 3-0
France - Tunisia 3-0
Poland - Slovenia 3-0
Group E
Iran - Cuba 3-1
Russia - Mexico 3-0
Iran - Mexico 3-0
Russia - Cuba 3-0
Cuba - Mexico 3-0
Russia - Iran 3-1
Group F
Canada - Argentina 3-2
China - Finland 1-3
Finland - Canada 1-3
China - Argentina 1-3
Argentina - Finland 3-1
China - Canada 0-3
Shoji as best libero as a joke. He's literally never improving. Always the same space when receiving. Never extending himself to defend.
Polish libero was more outstanding to me.
I agree !
