Posts by iceman008

ksssing american players's ass? hmn among the us players the only ones i praise/praised a lot is/were logan tom, foluke akinradewo and destinee hooker i praise europeans more mammadova, ravva, jelic, flier, artamonova, sokolova, gamova and such.

if i will base on stats i would give it more to tandara than gabi

spiking- 7th vs 11th
blocks- 27th vs 15th
serves-3rd vs. 29th
digs- 12th vs. 18th
reception-16th vs. 3rd

so gabi didnt have a terrible tournament but she still wasnt the 2nd best oh

i dont like gabi and kubra getting awards but im ok with the japanese setter

kim will stay in fenerbahce? i wonder if they will have a team strong enough to win the cl

rain of irrelevance can use all the justifications but it wont work because it is a lousy one

btw if this is how ecz will play then im glad that they were eliminated in the turkish league

well apparently even if players can be good at 40 neslihan was already out of the top 5 best opposites 3-4 years ago.

hmn a user knows he/she made the wrong justification about goncha so now he/she is trying to make an excuse

lolollol (a word rbdfabio frequently uses) well apparently someone is not good at making a reason for goncha, if that person had said "well goncha is more focused on her family right now so playing in other countries is not an option for her right now" then i would have understood the reasoning, you see this is the problem when people make not so credible justifications it leads to misunderstanding.

hmn so apparently just because you are "the best in the world" means you dont have to expand your horizons

"russian spy, american hater, terrorist" what the hell? where in my posts did i mention your a russian spy? i just said that how you communicate is also how i will communicate with you

"i like to keep it real" hmn on a thing such as player comparisons (who is the best setter, who is the more valuable libero etc) that is meaningless? i think "keeping it real" means "i dont like what the other person said about the player so i'll make some bold claims which would then stroke my ego".

if someone here makes a comment "hey icey arent you generalizing us too much?" uhm here's the deal i communicate with other people the way they also communicate to others which means that if your "offensively generalizing" just like what ezo said then i'll be "offensively generalizing" to you as well and you know what's funny? i read something like "might look like i m trying to pick a fight it is just my way of a discussion lol" hmn if that is the way of discussion then that is also the way people are going to discuss with you in other words if you really like to "keep it real" (more like ego masturbation really) then dont complain about how other people will react.

people making stupid comments "i think larson is overrated", "i think rasic is overrated" the fact that you (shiznut, rbdfabio, shame, whoever) take people's opinions too seriously on a sport makes you look pathetic and so what if some here likes to kiss american players's ass? whether they are or are not great wont really affect you nor any other people to me the only time your compalin would be valid is if you dont like those who kiss the ass of someone like edrogan or trump because those are the ones that can negatively impact the lives of many people.

oh by the way human decency is a must i have no problem with that but saying fener and gala won because of "thugs" is idiocy

oh hey someone made this quote: "Vitra have beaten them 3 times this year and the Fener fans couldn't stop it"

so if fener's fans were really distracting then how come ecz won 3 times this season against them in other words if they were really affected by the fans then they shouldnt have won even 1 game during their matches this season

but you see rain of castacrapiness does not know how to answer this question he/ she will always say "oh hooliganism affects a player's performance" hmmn then i wonder what would be his explanation to players who were able to win and do well despite of hostile circumstances such as i dont know jesse owens? jackie robinson? those players faced not only booing but racism, family members or friends being beaten up/killed and yet they were able to excel at their sports.

the fact of the matter is ecza was already leading 14-11 and had only 1 point to win if the "thugs" really affected them then why did they even get to match point anyway? in other words the only time your claim that fener won just because of "thugs" is if ecz was defeated in straight sets but since they were able to get to match point then the question is why were they able to overcome "thugs" majority of the game but not during the matchpoint.

this what is stupid about all this talk, there are a lot of times when a team like vakif will face gala wherein there will be a lot of hooligans and vakif will still win 100 times so the question is if vakif can beat gala with hooligans a hundred times then why cant they suddenly win it during the semis? because the hooligan argument will only be valid if the record is bad in other words

with hooligans and a 60+% win rate=hooligan not a factor
with hooligans and a 40+% win rate= hooligan might be a factor

oh by the way ecz was leading 13-7 in the semis and 14-11 at one point so even when there are hooligans they still had 4 match points so in the end they should have gotten that 1 point.

Quote from ST2008

I have to disagree with you. Sportsmanship applies also to sport fans as well. Volleyball is not Football. When Vakif or Vitra fans don't go to watch the Game because they don't want to clash with thugs, we have a serious problem here. And what next? Are we going to allow players to fake injury or to call their opponents names like in Football? Are we going to see one day, in volleyball, fans use laser pointer to blind players or throwing firecrackers into the court as well? We can observe how uncivilized behaviors of some fans in RIO2016 can affect so deeply many players. Are you going to say the same thing to these international elite players that it's their fault for chickened out because of fans? I also want to underline that the players in those volleyball games are all ladies. Even in football, fans have more civility when players are ladies.

if you say that the security of the arena should be better when it comes to hooligans then i agree with you however once inside the court not all conditions are the same, there are times when their is a very hostile crowd, sometimes it is so quiet, sometimes the floor is sliperry, sometimes the ref is bias but in the end it is up to the player/team on how to overcome that obstacle.

"Are we going to allow players to fake injury or to call their opponents names like in Football?"

calling names is now a problem? lol if you are so sensitive that you lost focus because of namecalling then being a pro is not for you

out of all the discussions regarding kyk vs zhu the only one who makes sense is rains of castamare, she is right if a team wins you cannot put all the praise to kyk or zhu and likewise if a team loss you cannot put all the blame on kyk or zhu, the only thing you can argue is which one of them has more contributions to their team however even that is debatable since the strength of their teams arent the same.

it only happens rarely so i dont mind it too much, now if it happens many times then that's the time to be concerned.

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KOVO V-League 2016-2017, Round 3, December 7th, 2016 - Heungkuk Life Pink Spiders vs. Korea Expressway Corp. Hi-pass.

Heungkuk Life Pink Spiders 3-1 Korea Expressway Corp. Hi-pass. (20-25, 25-20, 25-20, 29-27) stats

Heungkuk: 9. Tabitha LOVE 24 (2a, 1b); 17. LEE Jae-Yeong 23 (1b); 11. KIM Su-Ji 16 (3a, 3b); 7. KIM Na-Hee 9 (1b); 3. SHIN Yeon-Gyeong 4 (1a, 1b); 14. CHO Song-Hwa 4 (3b); 12. GONG Youn-Hee 1 (1a);. Total Points: 99, Score Points: 81, Attack: 64, Ace: 7, Block: 10, Error: 19, Dig: 104.

Hi-pass: 4. JEON Sae-Yan 20 (2a); 10. BAE Yoo-Na 14 (3b); 20. Kennedy BRYAN 13; 13. JUNG Dae-Young 12 (4b); 7. GO Ye-Rim 11 (1a); 5. LEE Hyo-Hee 3. Total Points: 92, Score Points: 73, Attack: 63, Ace: 3, Block: 7, Error: 18, Dig: 112.

Next match: December 8th at 17:00 KST - Hyundai Engineering & Construction vs. IBK Industrial Bank Altos.

Since I didn't started to watch volleyball yet at the time, I'm not sure why Heungkuk form dropped like that after KYK left. Maybe someone else out there could explain as to the reason/s why Heungkuk struggled after KYK left the team. But their recent improvement started in 2014 when they got the 1st pick in 2014 draft to select LEE Jae-Yeong, the recruitment of MB KIM Su-Ji from Hyundai, and the appointment of the new coach PARK Mi-Hee.

With IBK, the reasons I think for their dominance of the Korean V-League in recent years are because of their two key players KIM Hee-Jin and PARK Jeong-Ah (player with bad reception according to Emil ). IBK were lucky to get both players from the draft before their first year in the league as they were allowed to select 10 players. Both players have decent mobility around court, but most importantly they have power and height advantages (KIM at 1.85m and PARK at 1.87m) over other Korean players (other Korean OH/s or OPP/s are about approx. 1.75-1.84m). IBK have both side of the net covered with KIM on the right as OPP and PARK on the left as OH, or you can have them play in the centre as MB. Add in a good foreign player and experienced setter like LEE Hyo-Hee and KIM Sa-Nee you got a strong core of players to build your team around.

Hyundai are not as strong as IBK but led by their MB YANG Hyo-Jin and KIM Se-Young, they are the strongest blocking team in the league. Hyundai however lack a second good OH to compliment Emily HARTONG and HWANG Youn-Joo. Last season and this season too, Hyundai have play with either JUNG Mi-Sun or HAN Yoo-Mi as the second OH. JUNG defence maybe good but her attack a little lacking on the other HAN's attack is slightly better than JUNG but her reception is bad. Whilst Hyundai are one of the stronger team in attack they are also one of the worst team when committing errors.

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okay who do you think has the biggest potential to be the next kim yeon koung in korea?