Posts by Meatballs

I agree on GS's roster being not a good scoring team. I was also expecting someone who can carry the scoreload but that would make Kalandadze's transfer useless. Alexia and Ilkin have their limits in scoring, so hopefully either middles or Kalandadze can help with that. In short, Kalandadze's attacking will set the bar for GS next season.

The rotation with Ilkin+Yasemin+Bongaerts will be a headache though.

Good thing is, THY looks way worse next season. So fight for the 4th place will definitely be tough next year and GS may win it with more stable receiving line and a defensive team.

Rhaemon, I am sorry but I will stop here. It is really difficult to explain something to someone who does not have any analytical skills and can't follow a simple logic. Let it be your emotions, either love for Russian players or hate for Ebrar, I don't know how to explain it. But I feel like I am talking to a 13 year old, who is simply looking for winning a debate, although it means overlooking a logical argument.

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People, Goncharova is literally called a diva.

and that's not a nice description. It means being difficult and bratty.

you seriously think that Ebrar's level of disrespect is the same?

She keeps getting into fight even off court.

you Turks better shut it with Ebrar.

Better yet, go sign a petition and keep her in Turkiye so she doesn't grace other leagues with that nasty attitude. she should stay in Turkiye where only fellow Turks can appreciate her nastiness.

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Can you believe it that your country's club actually begging her to play for them and paying tons of money for that too? It is not like she was begging someone to transfer her lol, she was probably getting offers from all over the world. I am sure Moscow would love to replace Goncharova with her if she would accept a lower salary

So if you are approving Goncha and Gamova's afrontes, can you please tell us what is the "ok level of afrontes"? I mean is there even one? If you are ok with anyone doing it, then you should be fine with Ebrar doing it too. I wrote it a million times that I don't like it but what I hate more is, when people are biased and approving one and refusing the other, knowing they are almost the same thing.

It is so much disinformation in this thread lol that it hurts my eyes while reading.

First of all, dear Matthias did you see what crovolley wrote about Ebrar and her looks? What is next, will we start joking about Magda's ears and going closer to the magma?

Secondly, someone wrote "did any Turkish girls share anything against Erdogan". Whoever wrote this probably lives in a place with no internet. They almost always share Ataturk in their posts and react whenever some radical religious person says something stupid and that is more than enough to show that they are almost all against Erdogan. Particularly Ilkin talked about these issues in her interviews and the national broadcaster , TRT had to move to the next girl, to not publish what she was saying lol. Don't think Goncharova has the balls to do such a bold move in Russian national tv, she only yells at people on the net and shows fingers around.

Thirdly, "noone can speak up" is not a good argument. "Noone could speak up in Nazi Germany either" but look what happened. If Russians want to share the same shame 50 years later in history books, please keep remaining silent. But some of us will remember brave souls like Gamova.

When it comes to this forum, I understand the hatered towards Ebrar but please make sure this hatered does not bias your view on other issues. Russians were not sweet, innocent souls and had good sportmanship until Ebrar arrived to the country. We know what is happening there to the LGBT people and Godina is just an extension of that. We know that Goncharova and many other Russian volleyball players were doing afrontes for at least 2 decades. Ebrar is not an excuse for their long lasting disease.

Lol, if I were Ebrar, I would never get advice from someone like this: https://www.uol.com.br/esporte…netada-de-ex-namorada.htm

Besides her bad political support, Natalia did indeed shout at her opponents in past. I am sure someone can google and come up with some examples.

To be honest, I am not a fan of afrontes at all, or people provoking opponents in any way. But people like Goncharova or Natalia should be the last ones criticising this. Well in general Brazilian and Russian players since afrontes is simply established in these countries and migrated world wide

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Probably. Maybe he wanted give some chance to Yaren who plays her first season in Sultanlar Ligi

Gamze and Mehmet were having a very weird argument during last match. Don't remember which set start was it, must be the fifth one but she was holding her arm and she pulled her arm, saying lots of things, discussing with him. Did not look good.

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Godina is a great example of good players are not necessarily good people🤦

People? For that she needs a functioning brain. Right now, she is a thrash bag, moving around.

I hope someone will finally dare to open their mouth among the Russian athletes and make a stop to this nonsense. Can't imagine how much a regular citizen suffers when I see this happening to Ebrar now.

Well, not surprised with the text considering the new Russian nation they are trying to build.

I wonder if any of the Russian volleyball players will dare to respond to this publicly...I am assuming no, but I hope they surprise me. Until they do so, I won't feel sorry for Russia missing olympics and other events.

I think Ilkin is trying to use her body economically. She had 2 ACL injuries, and said in a recent interview that last time they used something from a cadaver to fix her injury and doctor told her this is her last chance. She used to jump a lot better and sometimes and goes to that reach still, but I think she is making controlled jumps to avoid overuse.

With that, I agree on her arm and range, also she is a very good receiver and defender. If she improves her blocking and serves, she can be one of the best defensive OHs.

Lol, you guys only see what is on tv etc. You have no clue what happens in parts where the cameras are not shooting. Ebrar is very easy to provocate and clearly most teams targets her to engage her in such silly things than focusing on volleyball. But players like Goncharova absolutely deserve such reacting, especially if someone like Parubets scream back at her.

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These stats. Almost negative against China with 10 points 44% in attack , 9 errors and also negative efficiency in the reception.

Against USA had 8 points with 31% in the attack 6 errors and also again the worst efficiency in the reception with 3,7%

Obviously you have a distorted view of what a good performance means, especially if we are talking about players of your ΝΤ .

Think if she played really well. you would tοld us that she became the second Zhu Ting the last summer lol .

There were many other aspects to this than just numbers...

Derya being on the court had some effects like:

- her being the target with serves, releasing some receiving load from Ebrar

- her being a threat in blocking...we don't see how many balls she bounced in block

- her being a threat in attacking and attacking some oos balls

Also, these numbers are comparative. We don't know how Ilkin or Hande would perform, maybe they would end up with lower numbers. All I know is, thanks to Derya being on the court, Turkey won everything last summer.

Ilkin is doing an excellent job and reached 416 points so far. I am keeping my fingers crossed that she goes over 450 points in the end with the last 2 matches against Kuzeyboru. Looks quite likely, assuming these matches should go to 5 sets.

I don't agree that she choked in the NT. She did an excellent job throughout the whole VNL, until the US match, where she simply could not block Drews over and over. Rightfully, Santarelli used Derya and Hande (who had a terrible journey whole VNL but finally could step up). That's why you have a deep bench and it is normal a young player has one bad set in such a long tournament. Too bad for her that the bench was too good and she did not get many chances afterwards.

When it comes to decent OHs, I cannot think of anyone except Gabi and Kelsey right now either. But for defensive ones, I can say Hande and Ilkin are definitely there to challenge and are definitely in top 10. I would not consider players like Arina and LYY in the same category, I would say they are two of the best, receiving in a small zone and hitting very well. While these two can be considered in top 3, I would actually add Ebrar in top 5 when it comes to offensive OHs.

Isn't Karch seriously considering Logan as an opposite this summer in wide roster? In a team where Cuttino got chances, Logan definitely deserves a shot. Her numbers are rocketing since she switched to opposite in GS.

Well, their best exit is to transfer Vargas somehow but it can also get worse if FB decides to transfer Zehra, leaving them with only Cansu as reliable local.

serdar I did not want to occupy the transfer rumours thread.

As far as I know, when Dehrican was the headcoach of women's NT B, in one of the trainings, Yasemin Sahin (MB of Eczacibasi now) was behaving irresponsible, joking around and not taking it serious. So as far as I remember, he asked her to leave the training and then probably pushed her after a dialogue to leave the training. Some claimed her husband had relations to federation, so Dehrican was directly banned. He lost all his contracts. Then Sigortashop signed with him for a short while but again, rumours were saying that federation was bullying the club due to Dehrican, like not letting them play in another hall etc. Eventually he worked at GS as assistant coach and then 2nd league. Now he is in Romania I think.

To me, I am not sure who is right or wrong but I will be surprised if GS's management would allow him to work in GS if he committed some sort of violence. Moreover, Ilkin was part of the same team at that time etc. Noone seemed to have problems with him.

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Vakif is living the same disadvantage Eczacibasi and Fener had for years.

Fener signed Asli and Gizem. And later Vargas became a turkish player. Those 3 alone are the best pool of local players even taking Eda and Meliha out of the count.

Eczacibasi signed Elif and got back Naz. Jack was naturalized. And Simge is now back to her top shape and performance. They could even lose Yasemin without being affected that much...

And they deserve it. Alexia is naturalized too in Vakifbank but she was being useless this season. In her season at GS, she was the best scorer of the league and had most aces after Arina (she had 63 aces, Arina had 71 and they had the same number of serves). Not sure what Giovanni did to her, but he has a good reputation of killing some player's confidence and Alexia being only 19 made things probably worse.

With Cansu, Zehra and Ayca, Vakif did not have a terrible local roster either. They just needed 1 more who could be in starting 6, like Ilkin. Alexia could be one, but not in her current shape. Derya could be one too, but instead he preferred to loan her. Eczacibasi has been investing on Hande for 5-6 years, I am glad they are picking some fruits of that investment now. And Fenerbahce did some smart choices, such as transferring Asli as soon as they needed her.

Ops, also forgot Ebrar in Vakifbank. They could simply invest on her, either as opposite or OH. But Giovanni did Giovanni things

Btw Vakif fans should stop complaining about 3+1 foreigner rule. We predicted some years ago that with Giovanni being such a a-hole to every national player, banning them from the roster despite their good performances would have an effect in the future. Now we see that most locals avoid Vakifbank and they are struggling to build a strong local core. Their last hope was Ilkin and I am glad she did not go that way and I am sure she is not regretting it, watching how Vakifbank turned out this season.

Not that he only had personal problems with a lot of good players but also he is having troubles to motivate his own players. Zehra and Cansu looked really bad this whole season compared to how they performed with Santarelli during last summer. So in simple terms, Vakifbank is suffering from Guidetti who suffers from his bad history with current local players. In a few years, I am sure they will attract better players again.

Uzelac + Brankica does not make sense, but I guess they can use Brankica as opposite/OH sub.

Zerenspor should go for Gamze Alikaya as setter. Not that I like her setting but she is experienced and is local. They just need a fine bench setter in case she goes weird.

I read that Göztepe is also buying a team's rights (most likely Sariyer) and Ataman will be their head coach. With that, Zerenspor's only option was Dehrican as a local coach but he seems unofficially banned by the TVF.

If Boskovic stopped this nonsense and left that team, they would never make it to top 4 lol. She can also pretend to be injured

Uzelac is indeed a very good transfer, if it is true. Now with Uzelac and Kalandadze, finally they can have a strong bench. I guess the 4th OH will be Sude since she is fine as a local.

About Alexia, I am puzzled. I think she will be very useful for Besiktas since she is local, on the other hand GS does not need a local opposite necessarily but someone who can score reliably. With Alexia, chances of Yasemin Özel benching her time to time was strong since she had a good season herself, but with a stronger opposite, this might not be.

I don't like Aslihan's setting but she is a very good server. Double substitution can be very effective with her and Yasemin Özel (or Kalandadze) coming in. She is still way more consistent as a setter compared to Duygu Duzceler who was completely useless this season.

I agree about Eylul-Bihter duo. Eylul is a risk I would take but it would be smarter to have a foreign libero at the bench. GS won't be benching Yasemin Guveli-Aycin unless they play terrible anyway. If they can find a 3rd solid local MB, then they might not even need a foreign MB either. At this point, a foreign libero can bring a lot more to the team than a foreign MB replacing the local MBs.