Posts by Meatballs

    I found out that, according to TVF, Galatasaray and Fenerbahce play outside the neighborhoods of Galata and Fener. The first is playing in Sarıyer and the last in Kadıköy: I lost all the certitudes in my life. :huh:

    Mmm not really :S Galatasaray is a team of the European side, associated with Taksim area, while Fenerbahce is associated with the small neighbourhood Fenerbahce in Kadiköy.


    Both play their matches in Burhan Felek, which is located in Uskudar (next to Kadiköy).


    GS is training in their own hall, close to Kadiköy (I think it is Tac Spor tesisleri, in Atasehir), while Fenerbahce should be training in Atasehir (also next to Kadiköy).


    By the way, Okan Böke deleted his tweet from last night and now tweeted that what he said was misunderstood. Orkun Darnel etc. were a few names who criticised the decision last night. I am sure the team (or in general most Turkish teams) will have a smaller budget next year due to economic problems in Turkey but I still hope they will find at least 1 good OH and MB. Still, the squad can be fine with:


    Cagla-Özge (U16 MVP setter)

    Guldeniz-Cansu Cetin-Ilkin Aydin-Elifsu (can be a foreign OH here, hopefully Antonaki; Neriman is also an alternative)

    Beren-X (an opposite is needed and Rhykliuk's contract is on-going. I am hoping she leaves though)

    Melike-Sezen-?-? (Rumours were saying that Asli Kalac is leaving and Ergul Avci might join the team, but why do they let Asli leave?)

    Gizem Karadayi-Derya

    True Beliën was doing great in BJK until she got injured :( I really thought she was on her way to finally become that super threat of a MB2 for NL and then the injury happened :(

    Problem with Belien was she seems she did not recover from her injury and is scared to get it back. She did not run slide attacks until Olympic qualifiers, when Netherlands could not qualify, all of a sudden she started running slides again. Unfortunately her blocking was not enough, neither was her attacks from zone 3. Though I agree, GS had two terrible setters, especially Nilay avoided middles any way she could, which made even Asli perform bad towards the end. At this point it won't matter which middles GS get since the setters will be staying next season. It also sucks bad for GS that one of their best and reliable locals, Asli is leaving to THY.

    I Meatballs I think GS could build a great team with her tbh, an actual game changer one again! But considering Maja's age VB won't ever let her go... *sigh*


    I still hope someone loans her for the season.

    I think GS is a good playground for players who want to have more playing time and have potential. Cansu could definitely make a difference in GS though team management fails worse every year with their foreign player choices. So far the only reasonable foreign player choice that I found good was Vasilantonaki. Besides, as you mentioned, it is impossible for Vakif to let her go, even for a season.


    If Alessia is staying, GS is clearly not a team to expect a place in top 3 in the league. I wish they could transfer Lippmann, Herbotts, Daalderop and such promising players.

    Well Eczacibasi seems to have a traditional line up (call it good or bad) for many years now. They like to play with stable sets to wings where middles are simply there for only blocking. So I guess they will make transfers fitting to this style unless they get a fresh trainer with different ambitions or Nalan Ural (their manager) is sacked.


    It is also similar to FB, they are also building an offensive team with strong servers as a tradition. So I expect them to find players fitting to this style.

    I love Tomkom really bad but not sure if she will work well for Eczacibasi, not for her setting but due to her height and gap in blocking. I agree on comments about receiving and strong middles. Eczacibasi had a good receiving line this season, their problem were mainly middles who could not attack. This is impossible to fix even if they added a strong attacking foreign MB to their squad. The only option is having Asli Kalac and Tomkom duo, Tomkom can make a beast out of Asli in attacking, but their block height together will be punishable.


    Eczacibasi can use a good receive+fast sets system if Tomkom joins them. Gamze used to be the best local setter when it comes to playing a fast system. So she can go back to her roots too. Problem is, when you have Hande and Boskovic on wings, such a system will be difficult to establish, unless you get Robinson as 3rd wing player.


    Hill-Bartsch duo in Imoco with Wolosz can be insane indeed. Both can hit fast balls, Bartsch is clearly an improvement compared to Sylla for that reason.

    Unfortunately, as a Turkish user, I have to admit that "crovolley's" two posts about corona just sounded like jokes and in his second post about Turkish numbers raising, he looked more concerned than rooting for it. But maybe I am the one misinterpreting since his english is bad. Despite all these, problem with crovolley is not him disliking Turkey etc, but him provocating half of the forum in his every second post. I have to admit also that I don't like this witch hunt situation, feels bad.


    I also have to admit that I am very disappointed by some users here. You all seem well educated but it is sad to see that you have this positivist perspective where you see things only black and white. Please read more, try to open up new perspectives for yourself, learn how social issues can be viewed and analysed. This applies to the discussion of Corona virus too. You cannot discuss social, economic, political issues with a positivist view or only with a positivist view. You need to understand that there are hundreds of other dimensions to such problems. Hopefully this can help both to your careers and you personal relations.


    Coming back to the forum administration, let's be mature here and take the following steps: (1) we get 3 new mods/admins in addition to Mathias, (2) rules become clear and users posting provocative, racist, offensive comments are warned once and banned afterwards. In that way Crovolley gets a second chance and hopefully becomes less provocative.


    To finalize this post, please remember to not accuse forum admins for not setting clear rules/guidelines. It is really difficult to identify a person racist, sexist and offensive unless they directly write "oh I hate X". The spectrum is so large and varies among how different people perceive them, you can be an extreme pc person who take any negativity as offensive to something. I remember someone from indonesia being offended when beri was a bit harsh about woman wearing scarf. So lets remember that defining what is racist, sexist etc is difficult and try to find a common ground.

    Vaccine might be far but if they can come up with an affordable effective threatment for the virus, I think all the hype will end immediately. According to scientists, most companies are testing mass produce-able effective threatment and it won't be a surprise if they come up with something before summer.

    I don't understand why people think one single star player can elevate an inexperienced team that much to beat even really good, well-organized "top-20" teams. I also don't believe that there aren't any capable coaches in Sweden. Haak had instant success when she moved from Sweden to France. So i guess her prior coaches at home also deserve some credit in her early development.

    I did not say trainers are bad, but most clubs are not even signing full-time contracts with players here. There are no proper sponsors, largest Swedish cities like Gothenburg and Malmö don't have teams in the professional league and they refuse to play there because costs are enormous while once again there are no sponsors. It is funny considering giant companies like Volvo being localised in Gothenburg. So most of the things done in Swedish volleyball today are done by people's own will, with no monetary expectations. I mean federation does not even organise an indoor trainers course for many years. I don't how many countless talented girls quit volleyball because they simply saw no future...The only option for talented teenagers is to attend a volleyball high school and I honestly don't remember anyone else than Lazic sisters who went to that high school and became famous pros.


    Haak is an exception in every way. She was lucky that she was a part of a team which has been in the pro league for so many years and she could play with their A team already in young ages instead of going to a volleyball high school.

    Well Sweden was aiming for Paris 2024 last year too :D Quite ambitious considering how terrible the investments are towards volleyball here unfortunately...Let's hope they make it to next ECH at least, sucks not to watch Haak in a NT.

    Turkish numbers are wrong. I think countries should show % of positive cases out of number of tests, because 2500 cases in Turkey and Sweden are out of maybe 20000 tests done, while many other countries including US, Spain and Italy are doing enourmous number of tests. In Turkey they started to use computer scans instead of regular Covid tests to diagnose as well.


    Coming back to measures, I think metropolitans in Turkey are doing well. Use of public transport decreased drastically in Istanbul, like 70-80% according to the mayor. Roads are empty. But in smaller cities, people live like nothing has changed which is mainly because there are tons of local SMEs, who will go bankruptcy if they shut down for 2 weeks. Locals are aware and therefore they pretend nothing is abnormal. I don't blame them. This is all because we have terrible governments all around the world.


    If a government declared a clear list of financial actions from day 1, saying things like "all SMEs will get financial support in terms of rents, tax payments etc." or "businesses don't have to pay social security taxes of their employees during this period", noone would open their stores. At the moment, people are between two choices: (1) risk your health, open your store, get corona, die today or survive it hopefully or (2) stay at home, survive today, but go bankruptcy in a month and die from hunger in a year.

    I would love watching Natalia-Ilchenko duo with Gonharova as opposite. Can make a good team! Depends alot on the setter though :S


    Carlini in Eczacibasi can work good though. Since they don't aim to improve their MB position, a setter who is good with wings seem like a good match for them. However in modern volleyball, a system where you don't use middles effectively in attacking will always fail in crucial moments, like when you play finals against Vakifbank or semis in CL.

    Turkey now forbid 65+ people to go outside. I think people don't understand three simple things:


    - Risk group for Coronavirus is if you are older than 65 years and have chronic diseases including diabetis, high blood pressure, heart problems etc.

    - If you are in the risk group or living with someone who is in the risk group, do not meet anyone else and stay at home, ask others to do the grocery shopping for you.

    - Don't visit someone in the risk group.


    For people who are not in the risk group, the decision is on their own shoulders. Scientists claim that almost everyone will be infected with Corona virus one day. Most people who are not in the risk group are probably corona infected already, but not aware of it and don't have any symptoms. That is the main reason why Sweden is not testing people who are not in the risk group, simply it does not matter. That's also the reason some countries want people to be infected gradually, getting immunity for it and those who are having severe symptoms going to hospitals, without overloading the healthcare system. So unless the healthcare system screams "we don't have space or resources anymore", governments will keep the quarantine mild. In Italy, they did and a strict ban is applied.

    Well, your moderator skills were pretty shitty so I take it as a wise decision and you should have done that a while ago. on the other hand I have nothing against your volleyball related comments.

    Lol, this forum was a much better place before people like you started writing actually. Have been here for so many years and the last 2 years has been the worse. We could discuss volleyball without racism and trolling and whoever tried to troll was getting banned anyway. Matthias is one of the last mods who actually do something for the forum. I wish he was not being as nice to you guys and just banned directly. Thank you for your good work and patience Matthias, hope you did not mean it.

    Sweden is taking a chill approach to the virus, no quarantina, no serious stay at home decisions, restaurants still open...I think they shut down most high schools and universities though, but still did not close the borders. Numbers did not increase drastically here though, which might be because they decided to test only risk groups (older people or people with side diseases).


    I think they are also aiming for the idea of "keeping risk groups at home and away from the virus" while making non-risk groups exposed to the virus and helping them to get immunity against it gradually, without overloading the healthcare system.

    Well closing beaches and following policies blindly can be dangerous too.


    I’m on vacation in Gran Canaria since last Monday when things weren’t that bad at the beginning. All of a sudden yesterday Spanish government shut down everything and announced, from Sunday, everything will be closed except food stores and pharmacies. Now we are many tourists here from Sweden, Germany and UK, waiting for our flights. Problem is, some people including us still came to beach, because staying at hotel with 200-300 other people by the pool, drinking alcohol from same tap, sitting closer than 2 meters is a lot more dangerous than sitting in open air at the beach, where you can keep 2-3 meters gap with others.


    what happens is, police and Red Cross constantly terrorises people on the bitch, driving their car on them to force them to leave and encourage them to go back to their hotels. Is it really that smart to pack so many people in their hotels, knowing that in a day or two all of them will go to airport? I think transmission rates will go rocket high here...