Posts by jetmasters

Quote from Tinyscrooge

so sad to see ZT playing through pain. All those funny faces while playing Turkey is likely pain from her wrist when she hits/blocks and Vargas is hammering it hard every time.
CB just ruined the entire tournament. Ironically being in the top of the pool got them Turkey and US got Poland. (Not that Poland is a bad team but China might have gone into SF based on their track record)

Like why bring ZCN when you don’t trust her to play. Bringing her on as a serve sub???? What a waste! Considering her service reception, which China really needed in that game, he could have let her sub in for ZT. Not only the game against Turkey, but France and Serbia. I hope to not see CB near the NT again.
do all those assistant coaches and trainer on the benches not a have say in any of the decision making during the game? Is it all CB and whoever he’s taking directions from?

I guess it’s probably best to stop here and not proceed any further to save more of their players from injury. I doubt they had any chance against Italy anyways.
I hope Wu MJ will continue her quest for the next Olympics as I think everyone else seems to be retiring since they will be considered “old” for the next one.

They need to get rid of Cai Bin first. He's the type of coach that can only hurt the team. He plays the same group of players to death even with injuries like what he did to Li Yingying. He played Gong with ankle injury at the World Championships. Knee and ankle injuries are potential career ending injuries if they don't get treated right away. If Cai Bin keeps his job, then we all know something is wrong in upper level management.

Quote from benchwarmer

China best chance of getting to the podium was Tokyo Olympics. Too bad a handful of the core NT players were injured especially ZT. If All were healthy, there was a big possibility 🇨🇳 could win. This Paris Olympics, the players were not as good as they were perhaps most have past their peak and they are not physically injured free.

CVA management ruined the best generation of Chinese players in my opinion. Tokyo should have benched Zhu because she was too injured to be effective in any way. Playing her might have exacerbated her wrist injury. Paris already ended before they started because they kept a bird brain coach who have not shown anything this cycle. Zhang Changning might be the most under utilized talented player in history. I just felt bad for the players because they deserved better.

Quote from usa_fan

Wow - two consecutive Olympics without making quarterfinals… can’t believe it.

China made the quarterfinals this time. You mean two consecutive Olympics without medaling?

Having a good coach would have made the difference.

Sloppy at times. This team needs to learn to keep their leads. Hope Zhu is fine.

Quote from Julian Chow

If they played as they did in sets 3-5, a win over France is not guaranteed

France is not USA though, at least not on paper. Next game is not Serbia so no pressure.

Quote from Julian Chow

We got lucky... the players were getting tired and losing focus from the middle of set 3. This then resulted in poor reception, poor passing and so on. Cai looked on, clueless and did nothing. Finally someone in the coaching bench might have pointed out, there's Wu Mengjie and she was brought in at the end of set 4. It was however too late to make a difference.

LYY saved the day by scoring several points in set 5.

I won't expect anything from Cai Bin because he will play the same group of players to death as always. It's pretty much on the players hands. Sets 3-5 they were really struggling with passing but managed to win it in the end. LYY was clutch in the 5th set.

Finally beat USA at the Olympics since 2004. I think good fortune will come. This team really needs to work on passing.

Quote from Batabid

It's not just western media who's reporting about China's cruelty to the Uyghurs. Al Jazeera, a news company from a Muslim country, made several reports about this

What's the difference between this propaganda video and BBC's? It's still part of western media control of influence. Still failed to show any evidence of genocide like what's happening in Gaza. Other countries actually went to investigate in Xinjiang, so did UN, and found no such claims of genocide. Western media started with genocide claims, then downgrade to cultural genocide, then to repression. Can it get any obvious?

Politics aside, IOC doesn't have a problem allowing Israel to compete even with evidence of genocide against Palestinians. IOC doesn't have a problem allowing USA to compete with even invasions of Muslim countries and killing millions of civilians. IOC doesn't have a problem allowing China to compete with allegations of genocide that have been debunked over and over. So why do some people have a problem with China competing? Do they have something against Chinese people?

Quote from hakin12

Lmao the irony in claiming those articles are propaganda and then post that extremely one-dimensional and biased video from a rather suspicious source as "evidence".

New Yorker has one of the most renowned fact-checking systems in the entire world and to categorically dismiss them as deficient with regard to credibility isnt very serious.

These are from Democracy Now and BBC, both western media with Uyghur genocide narrative. Not sure what are you complaining about. It actually shows difference between a real genocide and propaganda video. New Yorker, NYC Times, have no credibility because they recently claimed the shooter of Trump was Chinese but changed it later. It proves my previous point of western media is anti-China.

Quote from hakin12

Countless prestigeous or renowned outlets have written about the persecution of Uyghurs in China. Yes, they are primarily published by western media, but plenty of reliable evidence are nevertheless brought to light in these articles to support the claims of genocide. Surviving the Crackdown in Xinjiang 

https://www.theatlantic.com/the-uyghur-chronicles/

https://www.theatlantic.com/ma…a-ai-surveillance/614197/

Western media is anti-China. No point in posting these articles as evidence. It's just another form of propaganda. If you believe it, that's ok. Chinese government is doing a terrible job of committing genocide as Uyghur's population has doubled under communist rule. Here's a comparison of Gaza vs Xinjiang video. Believe whatever you want.

Quote from hakin12

How delusional is it possible to be? You are the victim of propaganda efforts by the Chinese government to cover-up this issue from public scrutiny.

In February 2019, the Turkish Foreign Ministry spokesperson issued a statement calling China's repression of its Uighur minority a "great shame for humanity".

The risk of the Uyghur genocide being forgotten is a grave concern. The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has not only employed deliberate and calculated tactics to conceal its genocide and crimes against humanity in East Turkestan but has also orchestrated a propaganda campaign to ensure others forget it is happening.

https://thediplomat.com/2024/0…cure-the-uyghur-genocide/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…ution_of_Uyghurs_in_China

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Muslims countries support China. The only exception are countries that are part of the western block such as Albania. The same countries that show concern for the so called Uyghur genocide are the same countries that support Israel's genocide of Palestinians. These are the same countries that invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and killed millions of Muslims. Who are you trying to fool?

There are literally thousands of youtubers showing videos of vacationing in Xinjiang and interacting with Uyghurs and yet you keep posting propaganda articles without any evidence supporting your claim. Wikipedia keep showing a picture of a drug rehabilitation of Uyghurs and called it a concentration camp. Meanwhile Israel is trying to censor everything they can but the world will not be fooled.

US is banning advance chips sale to China and yet you claimed China has the best chips to even put in into the human brain. Sounds like a cheesy hollywood script written by falun gong cult members. Anti-China propaganda spreaders keep covering lies with other lies and often contradict themselves in the end. It's a 90 billion dollar business. At least come up with something more believable.

Quote from hakin12

Speaking of genocide on a contemporary basis, I find it quite scandalous China isnt banned from OG this year. Why? Because they are persecuting the Uyghur miniority there on a considerable scale, presumably far more serious than Serbia did in Srebrenica during the 1990s. The Uyghur genocide has been classified as the most significant coerced confinement of an ethnoreligious minority since World War II.

In January 2021, the United States Department of State declared China's actions as genocide and Czech Republic condemned the Chinese government's treatment of Uyghurs as "severe human rights abuses" or crimes against humanity. Despite those issues, in addition to the tension in Taiwan/Chinese Taipei, China is allowed to participate in the Games while Russia has been excluded. I find this to be hypocritical and incoherent by the ruling organization, IOC.

Apparently China is using the Uyghurs there as so called "guinea pigs" for the testing and experimenting of chips in the brain. Hence the Uyghurs are walking around with devices in their brain which enable the authorities to keep them under non-stop surveillance and other even more frightening things.

The Uyghur genocide is just anti-China propaganda that has been debunked many times. I find it hilarious you even mention this at all considering what has been done to the Palestinians for the past 70 years.

Congrats to the men's team for winning first international trophy.

I think Cai Bin can only keep Zheng Yixin as the OHs spots are pretty much stacked. If I could only choose between Zheng or Wang Yunlu, I would have chosen Wang Yulun. Zheng just doesn't fit as an OP in any system.

Quote from Tinyscrooge

It’s sad that if any of the core players are not able to play, there are no options as most are on the bench and have no international experience as a team.
do most teams usually bring 1 Libero?

What happens if WMJ can’t play?

I agree, ZYX should not play OP and is not needed in Paris.

As long as the everyone stays healthy, everything should be fine on paper. No repeat of Tokyo is all we could hope for. Knowing Cai Bin would play the same core players to death and everyone else are just spectators and cheerleaders. So the backup selections don't really matter in my opinion. They are just there as filler according to Cai Bin. I just want to see something non Cai Bin like for a change. No more Wang Yunlu starting, no more Zheng Yixin playing as OP, and add more young blood to the mix. Is it too much to ask for?

Quote from fire_cai_bin

I think Xu Xiaoting should be there instead of Ding Xia. Backup should be Wang Yunlu because at least she has use for serve and defence in the rotation that the middle is scheduled to serve.

All of Zhu, Zhang, and Li can hit from 2. the coach is just not letting them and insisting on playing a middle at opposite

Good choices but Xu didn't get much playing time so it's pretty much 1 setter and 1 questionable setter. I think other OHs can do whatever Wang Yunlun can do. She only has a serve advantage IMO. No need to have so many OHs. The only position I don't like is having Zheng Yixin as OP. And of course Cai Bin as coach is the most terrible.

Any ideas of the final roster? Cai Bin really screwed up big time so I got zero expectations. He never developed any young players while playing the same group of starters to death. Bench's playing time is pretty much nonexistent. He made Zheng Yixin, a MB, play OP, where she had no business of being one. She should have kept playing MB. Too many other blunders to talk about. Anyway here are my picks.

OH: Zhu Ting, Li Yingying, Wu Mengjie, Zhuang Yushan

OP: Gong Xiangyu, Zhang Changning

S: Diao Linyu, Ding Xia

MB: Yuan Xinyue, Wang Yuanyuan, Gao Yi

L: Wang Mengjie

Reserve: Zheng Yixin

The reason I picked Zhuang is because we need to build for the future. Even though she won't be getting any minutes, it will be a mental booster for her if she gets selected.

I think Zhang Changning is a way better option than Zheng Yixin for OP. Plus she can also play OH.

Ding Xia should have been dropped a long time ago but she has more experience than other setters whom didn't get to play much at all. I think the setter position is our biggest weakness. Yao Di would have been my choice but she is not playing right now for the NT.

Gao Yi over Yang Hanyu because Yang is a poorer version of Wang Yuanyuan. Other MBs didn't get to play much so experience matters again.

I picked Zheng Yixin as a reserve due to experience again and she can play as a MB or a sucky OP. Cai Bin just let everyone else rot on the bench during these 3 years.

I know my picks will not happen 100% and Cai Bin will select Wang Yulun. She should come in as a sub serve only. Anyway it will be all up to the players if China can win the gold medal. Cai Bin should be gone no matter what happens after this Olympics.

Cai Bin: Thank you for eliminating Canada.

Quote from Tinyscrooge

doesn’t surprise me. Look at WYL- you can play like that and still secure starter position?? I wonder how this corruption is exposed? Whistleblower? What does it take?

If you take the table tennis situation, it took players boycott, public outrage, and a couple of years to arrest the former head. So it's a waiting game. For Cai Bin not to be fired, I think it is safe to say there is high level corruption in the CVA. Even if domestic coaches don't want to take the job due to high pressure, isn't it better to get a foreign coach than sticking with trash Bin? I'm 100% sure a foreign coach will take the job because money is not an issue.