So bcs I criticized Zhu's passing I clarify as a hater
I don't hate Zhu, and just bcs you guys keep saying so doesn't mean will become real, I and only I know how I truly feel. And I will keep criticizing/complimenting her based on different matches whether you like it or not and whether its positive or not once in a while.
But the problem is if we follow your logic, you're indeed a hater.
This guy extremly wants vakifbank to lose! He is just so pathetic~~~~ I have to say even zhuting does not stays in vakifbank. His favourite fenebache has no chance to win champions league next season!
Even though I'm suspecting his intention, he was not all wrong about the Vakifbank's players. I also feel some Vakifbank's players was underperformed and they become "lazy" comparing to last season (2016-2017).
Display MoreI strongly believe that ZHU staying in Vakif/BANK is a bad thing for volleyball as a "movement"...
People like her should change team every season -same as LOGAN TOM did in the past- in order to "spread the Word" and help this amazing sport being appreciated the way it deserves in more than just 1/3 country.
She should play the part of the "global ambassador" of volley, instead of making tons of money which partially get turned to the chinese federation.
She's too much of a money-maker now and after winning everything, including MVP awards, people is starting to get bored.
Last year she was also on the brink of a physical breakdown due to the fact that EVERYBODY wants to see her perform/ play/ win regardless (and Lang Ping asks a lot from her too).
In the CL F4, just days ago, we saw a failing team where she was playing on every spot, as if she had to "earn her crazy salary" in front of weaker, older, less payed teammates! She was fantastic at times, but also very close to LOSING the "collective" battle with Imoco.
Next time she will risk a collapse on live tv, "POOR TING"...!!!
I honestly believe staying next in Vakifbank would be POINTLESS and boring...
I'm pretty sure that if Zhu Ting was playing for Imoco or for another Italian club, your opinion would extremely different 
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Guys I’m so pissed at the Belgium player for the racist(at least insensitive) action she did on her instagram.
Why are there so many white people that are obsessed with this slender Eyes gesture and self claiming ‘we are just being friendly’ shit. We Asian mostly feel OFFENDED instead!! When will people like her and Uneducated Gigi Hadid learn??
Ps. This is not the first time this happens. There were people like the Serbian NT and Jacqueline and so on. I don’t know exactly what their initial intention was but I do hope one day they will learn that this is a wrong thing to do!
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Sidenote: Ugly japs trying to cheat in the set 2 is just so typical of them
Not exactly the same issue and I apologize for calling them names but it mostly doesn’t involve racism cause I’m asian myself
sitenoise: Do you remember that when ZodiacTTT was angry about the Japanese team because he thought at first that the Japanese team was cheating, I was one of the few users here who take side of Japanese team by explaining to ZodiaicTTT with facts that the Japanese team was not cheating? I hope this time you understand better why facts is so important to form an opinion.
Who here actually hates Zhu though? I don’t think anyone does.
I'm pretty sure that if some users here accept finally to clarify their statements, we would have better idea.
But what if we consider some as already too many
Then, show us a link and let us appreciate how "some" becomes suddenly a synonym of "too many".
what an energy !..i wouldnt feel as energetic as you to answer every single post..maybe bcz its pretty late in here : 2:32 a.m.
Thank for the compliment. I just try to be polite by answering back all comments addressed to me. Someone here had also said that I have a great determination. But you're better than me. Because you need to be very in shape to keep reading my comments, even 2AM in the morning.
This! This is not the personal discussions thread. Any personal things you want to discuss with people do it via PM. ONLY VOLLEYBALL RELATED DISCUSSIONS HERE I'm not a mod but still see this as a warning...
@Mods I think its best to take actions with this certain user
I thought you had pressed the ignore button. haven't you? If follow Sidney's logic and if you keep reading my comments, I have to conclude that you have a crush on me. And oh btw... could you be more specific and tell us who's this user? Is he the only one who talk things "off topics"?
i feel tired out
Just use the ignore button. very easy right?
You think it might also be because of people who insist on insulting those with a different opinion by calling them losers, etc?
Well, AFAIK, I never call someone a "loser" when their opinions or their claims were genuine even though if their opinions were different than mines. But I do admit that I have called some users here as "losers" for attacking other users with their hypocrite insinuations, with their false claims, with their false accusation or with their blanket statement under the pretence of expressing their so-called opinion. If you had witnessed me attacking someone who has different opinions than me, please copy/paste my quote and I will apologize this person in front of everybody.
I think it's a good idea too, but the only way it could work is if 1) the obvious trolls are gone; 2) people solved their problems with other users via PM. I think a drama-free forum is utopic, but at least there's ways it can be manageable.
Do you mean those who uttering frequently false claims and false accusations with their blanket statements? Yeah... I fully agree with you. There are many of them in this forum, especially with their mob mentality.
hypocrite = ST2008. Fact.
Happy?
And??? Does this help you to understand better why an opinion needs facts?
this is killing me lmao
Please don't die. you amuse me.
It's a fact. I thought you would like it
Nope... What I expect from you is to tell me if my reply had answered your question of why an opinion need facts.
Definitely the same guy
LOL, this is the best reply you have?
There was some guy here a while ago who kept insisting opinions should be backed up with verifiable FACTS.
Never understood that
Well if someone says that you're a dog and this is his or her opinion, I'm pretty sure that you will ask him or her to backup his so-called opinion with facts. FYI, an opinion is based on a perception of facts. You can say all day long that the sun is square and it's your opinion. But if you don't have any valid facts to backup your so-called opinion, probably people around you would ask you to find some mental helps.
lol I really struck a nerve here, didn't I?
I never disrespected any user here (unless they said some outrageously sexist, racist, homophobic, and transphobic as we've all seen...) and I have a clear conscience about that. If you can't take criticism about your favorite players, that's entirely another thing and to be quite honest, I couldn't be bothered. You want me to say it again? I think Busa as a player is garbage, trash, will never be as good as Grothues, etc.
Smarzek is cool with me though and I can't remember any time I called her anything. Must've been when she was playing as an OH in which case she's indeed horrible.
AFAIK, I didn't say anything sexist, racist, homophobic or transphobic. All I did was asking some users here to clarify their claims. So for this, I'm still puzzled about the reasons why you have something against me.
hypocrite are you planning to contribute something positive to the forum? Look I'm going to be honest, I get that you want to stand up for yourself and your beliefs but sometimes its just best to let go esp. when so many people dislike the way you talk to them. I'm asking you this as kind as I can: Can we just completely start over and forget about everything we told each other? Most likely none of us are completely right or completely wrong. Fresh start?
Well, do you agree with me that clarifying things with verifiable facts is one of the best way to contribute something positive to the forum?
I think hypocrite has a crush on me
In somehow, you're right. Because the fact that you keep refusing to answer my question or you refuse my request for asking you prove your claims create undoubtedly some kind of mystical charm.
I reported several posts from hypocrite with him calling us losers or even talking about masturbation or something like that, because I wish we had a better place and could comment without someone annoying us all the time, but now I realize it's not possible and the moderation won't do anything
Well, If you can answer my very simple and specif question and also provide to us a stupid link to prove your claims, I'm pretty sure that we would have better place for commenting. AFAIK, uttering false claims and false accusations are considered as trolling and this will never help for having a better place for commenting.
