am i the only one that finds this all incredibly bizarre lol
It is indeed bizarre ![]()
am i the only one that finds this all incredibly bizarre lol
It is indeed bizarre ![]()
Ognjenovic has very clean hands, just a rather long touch
But yes, some of her back sets are indeed quite thrown. But Queen should be allowed to do anything IMO
The reverse set thrown is not just her own problem. It occurs more often now among a lof ot setters.
With faster and faster tempos, the requirement for the setter's ability is also increasing.
There was a call against Sylves in one match when she played the ball with two hands far into the corner of the opponents court with a clean touch but referee called it a lift.
I read that the post-match review has clarified that it should have been ruled as legal. So I hope the referees will do better after reviewing all those cases.
It's funny how half of the "illegal actions" video consists of Alsmeier
And those should never have been legal under the previous rules either, that's the main problem.
The second half of the video is basically all Alsmeier. I think she knows FIVB has caught her hard. I guess that's why she did much cleaner in attacking in Week 1.
I absolutely agree that thrown balls should not be allowed. However I don't agree with FIVB's way of handling it, like why ban two-handed attacks altogether unless it's a setter dump and have some weird thing included about wrist movements? Just make it plain and simple: if the contact is too long, it's a mistake, no matter how many hands are used. Everybody hated those calls on balls that were above the net and pushed over with two hands by a player because it's pretty much the only possible solution sometimes. If the contact is short and clean, just allow those balls!
A setter's soft-setting dump is still essentially a setting action. The contact is short, and the ball is directed in a straight line. That's why the action Seki took during the match against Germany was allowed.
Furthermore, a call against Sylves in the match against Japan has been reviewed as legal because it didn't involve up-and-down pressing or a change in direction. It's a setting action instead of an attacking action.
I think the biggest issue is how they rule on Ognjenovic's setting. Her hands are not clean, and everybody knows it. Many of her settings can be called lifts. The referees should be harder on her!!
It seems the referees are also reviewing and discussing these calls on the double-handed attacks each day. Hope it will be clearer with the VNL going on.
I still think it's a good move to ban those unclean attacks. The men's side has been getting even worse in the past few years, I would say. Some top players use these techniques quite often, like Michieletto and some Polish outsides. This trend should be stopped.
Expected starting lineup:
Brand-Reichert/Röhrs
Torwie-Krick
Zimmermann-John
Graven
Florian Krage-Brewitz is not in the list. Only 3 MBs in Canada.
Schott can be registered as either libero or OH. If he registers as OH, he will be a back row sub. Peter will be serving sub as usual. Mohwinkel may play one or two matches. Kunstmann would probably enter as a blocking sub. Burggräf-Böhme may enter as double subs.
My expectation is low, since all four opponents are quite strong.
First week roster:
Setter: Zimmermann, Burggräf
OH: Reichert, Brand, Röhrs, Mohwinkel, Peter
MB: Torwie, Krick, Kunstmann
OPP: John, Böhme
Libero: Graven, Schott
Under the new rule, that was a clear lift by Thokbuom. You could argue a bit, but Guidetti's behavior was not acceptable. VNL is not the Turkish league. The referees will not tolerate his furious behavior.
The red card was all Guidetti's fault!!
Weitzel is the third-highest scorer for Germany, after Weske and Grozer.
She is currently the second-highest scorer among all MBs, just after Kudiess.
Best player for Germany in Week 1
Next round we have China, Belgium, Turkey and Brazil. If we play like today we won't win any set there
I think the goal now is to win one match and avoid falling into the relegation zone. The only chance may be against Belgium, I guess.
A bit disappointing in the first week. A good start, but then just falling apart.
No complaints about MBs.
Weske was okay. Played well in the first two matches, but not so well in the last two.
OH is a big problem. Alsmeier is not in very good shape. The problem for her is reception. Grozer played so well in the first match, really blew everyone away. But started to fade and, unfortunately, was injured in the last match.
Cesar is not as high-level as Pogany in reception. Her defense was okay. Sambale performed well with limited court time.
Straube had a good first match, but the performance could not be sustained. The rhythm was just flat and simple, and the setting was predictable once the opponent was familiar with her style. She needs to have variations and change the rhythm when the system is not working well. More importantly, a setter needs to know which attacker is in which position at all times. In the match against Japan, Sambale replaced Weske in the back row, but she set a high ball to the right side during a transition. That should not have occurred.
Kohn is not better. Glaab is a better fit as the backup setter at the moment. Hope she will be able to play soon.
Again, giving away the 17:12 lead in the first set.
Serve and receive becomes the biggest issue. The service cannot force the US out of system, and their own passing is just problematic.
Everything started to fall apart in the middle of the second set. Bregoli's some substitutions are also questionable.
That's the theory. Reality is very messy though and the calls are completely inconsistent. See my post in the Rules thread.
The calls would be controversial. But I would say it is acceptable at the moment. The teams need to adapt. Try fewer double-handed attacks when the ball is above the net, or touch it cleaner.
That's what the referee signaled, but I think she probably wanted to call a lift first for a two-handed attack, then noticed Wenerska didn't even play it with her fingers but the palm of her hand and decided to call double. To me it looked like Wenerska touched it only with one hand though
No. I would say it's a clear double touch. The referee said she saw it clearly when Poland protested.
Please check the referee's hand gesture after the call, and listen to their explanation when the team protests.
Most of the calls are clearly signaled and explained. Especially the newly introduced double contact during attack above the net. It must be clean, and no direction change. Pressing the ball with the hand or excessive wrist movement is not allowed.
It's hard to blame the referees when they're only trying to figure out the bullshit FIVB has invented, at times I have the impression they even are ashamed of having to call some balls
That was the rule introduced last year. If a double touch occurs without the ball crossing the net, it's allowed. But if a double touch results in the ball crossing the net to the opposite court, it's not allowed.
The ball was NOT touched by Wenerska's two hands simultaneously. The first referee signaled double touch, not a lift.
Straube's setting rhythm is again a bit off
It's unbelievable that two long breaks occurred just within a few points. The technical staff should be able to do better.