Posts by i. Anka

    Guys, i sense some irritations heated up due to reciprocal hateful/gaslighting/self victimizing comments between supporters or non supporters of specific teams. That seems to influence even the most level headed users who usually showed impartial comments. I don’t believe team Turkey is second best of all time and her reason putting italy above turkey -the olympic gold applies to china, US, and Brazil as well so she defies her own logic. On the other hand , when have we started counting point differences to determine the “real” winner? That is not a good look on those who resort to that flawed logic.


    I cant imagine the antagonism next time Turkey plays this time with Ebrar again lol.

    We asked to stop the provocations days ago without any results.

    You are banned for 2 weeks.

    i just checked this users posts. Lmao 3/4 of their posts is about Turkey. I mean i fled that country as a political refugee and i am never butthurt like that lol

    The favourite for tomorrow’s match is Turkey NT. But everything can happen, Brazil can make an upset.

    if brasil can shut off two of the top opps at the same game, they can definitely shut off vargas when Turkey doesnt have ebrar as a fall back option. But turkey is probably the slight favorite still due to the sheer Opp difference. In any case i hope we get a thriller

    So who’s your favorites for the final guys? Turkey has better opp and brasil has better OHs and system. Didn’t follow the tourney until today so I don’t know what are the comparisons in other areas. I assume brasil is better blocking? What else?

    No news about cev adopting euroleague or vnl format in a foreseeable future. There are interesting match ups at the highest level only in two groups meaning we’ll have mere 4 matches in total between top 8 teams. Such a missed commercial and sportive opportunity . I will protest if fener imoco don’t cross paths again

    Same thing I said in the Brazil thread because someone blamed her for being injured all the time but obviously Fener keeping her there is their own management's stupidity. Let go of her so she can join a different club...

    fener waits for here to recover from injuries obtained during the national team matches for two years and by the time it matters, she is not ready or stable enough. But they dont wanna let her go because if she peaks elsewhere it would be too painful to watch for the club. Indeed a tough conundrum.

    I am not sure about what I am going to say. Imoco's president had said some really disrespectful things before. The first thing comes to my mind was to imply that Gunes was a low level player (she was pretty bad that times due to injuries if I remember right).

    I think that there is a misunderstood. When it comes to the word ''Turks'' it's not necessarelly means Vakifbank. Seeing what FB and GS did the last and this season make a lot of sense. There's no a specific and long-term plan in their actions. The last season GS signed, I do not even remember who many foreign players, only in order to have them on bench. FB signs a different coach every single season and change players without any logic, simply because the fans are displeased. Abbodanza departure makes zero sense. I have never seen FB works better as a team and under his leadership Arina made a huge step as a player. Castillo make zero sense as a transfer. Jack is amazing and should be starter, but what is FB going to do with their MB's? Benching Eda? It would be the right thing to do, if they want to change things but... On the other hand, Ana Cristina who is a top level player will stay in FB and do what? Be Hande's back up? Their biggest weakness, which is by far the second OH is going to remain the same and Baladin had negative efficiency in the finals... There are so many foreigns that they can not play all. Some will be on bench very unhappy.

    Even in Ecza, Ishikawa's transfer make zero sense again, considering that Yaprak is truly progressing and becomes a stronge player. Ebrar is the number one, Uzelac is clearly a player with far greater potential and a higher ceiling than Ishikawa, and she will obviously be a priority for the club. Are you really trying to tell me that after giving so much playing time to Yaprak, who is also domestic — and who played ahead of Plummer, who has competed at a much higher level than Ishikawa and has actually won things — the club will suddenly ignore her and invest in Ishikawa? Especially considering that Ishikawa is a foreign player and basically has a really big disadvantage in her game — something that becomes a bigger problem, when you consider that top teams are becoming more and more physical. Remember what I’m telling you: the Japanese player will end up rotting on the bench and will only be used as a serving substitute. Even Vakif signed a MB only for the CL...

    Again I do not know if what he told it's right or not, but generally Italian clubs are usually invest more in specific player ( which are paid less than they are payed in Turkey), locals or not, and insist too much until to see the result that they want. Plummer is an example. They let her get destroyed many times until to see her progress. Nobody in Turkey could let a player get destroyed- and dag the whole team down with her- in a CL final game, like Santarelli did... They give too much time and trust to Sillah and she really did not delivered a lot. Nothing really intersting in her perfomances, but yet they kept her and they'll wait to see how she will do the next season. Milano is also an other example. This season they player with Piva, Lanier and even Kurtagic who seemed to be really problematic as an attacker... Nobody of these three ( and even if someone desagrees with Hena let's say two) had ever played as starters in a top team before. They played in a final and they had 4 players ( Piva, Fersino, Lanier and Bosio) that have never experienced playing in a final...

    I mean that in general Italians are more patient with their players, while in Turkey when you are foreign you just leave the club the moment you do not deliver ( Even after telling to the world that she is some kind of voleyball godess, Guidetti decided in some months to let Egonu go and go for Boskovic, for whom said to the world that he always know how to stop her...). The question is: Is this just a philosophy as Imoco's president said, or a compromise due to the fact that Italians have less money and must somehow to compete against ''the Turks''...

    your criticism holds ironically true for not only top turkish clubs minus vakıfbank but also top italian teams minus imoco. Scandicci struggled dor example to play maja and castillo, imoco not having local OHs at one point. So again poor and superficial comparison with contradictions imho especially timingwise. About patience, thy has been patient w/bergman which paid off later on, fener is ever patient w/ ana&arina, vakıf with ayça, ecza with elif, hande etc. But true things are intenser here in turkey than the land of the chill italians.

    Funny fener was among the favorites to win for the last 4 years and with arguably better squads with improvements in libero and MB preserving the pins, it feels like they are no longer favorites neither for CL nor for sultans league.

    acting like a grammar police is uncool.


    Glad i edit my hastily written messages.


    so long we convey our opinions in a civilised manner who cares fckng irregular verbs which are in essence bullshit things to care about

    wouldn’t it be awesome if serbia/balkans all of a sudden gets sponsors and funds a great local league to spice things up just like euroleague. And on the other hand benelux countries do the same in a combined effort!

    I mean maybe their president shouldn’t talk about how they raise their own players and Turkish clubs just buy players if that’s the case :lol: Idk

    That’s what i’ve been saying all along. It is okay you are not comparable to vakıf or ecza or fener in terms of institutions but the guy brings the subject upon himself. Noone denies what imoco has accomplished and maybe they are still favorites for CL next season but you can’t throw shade on turkish teams about things that they are doing better and longer than imoco and let poor VBdiamond reinterpret/translate /defend what you claim. Anyways case closed in my mind. Thanx for bearing with me

    Guys we gotta accept there is prolly truth in Turkish tax like we have in football too, not so extreme as Saudi case in football but in all welfare indices turkey lags behind italy so it’s only natural players usually ask a premium. I believe the premium has been shrinking steadily in comparison to the early stages of Turkish expansion. Let’s just live with that.

    Just to add some oil to the fire

    Brazilian fans are furious because of Imoco’s Co-President statement about CWCH. He said that venue was awful, they had a bad time and got bedbugs and there were medical reports to back up his statement.

    Ofc now he issued an apology saying that he didn’t mean it and they want to clarify what he meant to say :lol:

    now they demand gabi to make a statement:)


    btw, i dont think it is racist as the turkish-brasilian fanbase try to portray it. There can very well be fleas if a shabby hotel was arranged regardless of the country. I had bed bugs in granada spain. The guy even mentions it is medically reported. This just shows poor organisation and cutting corners due to budgetary concerns. But average fans are more sensitive than clitoris. The guy is just by no means diplomatic enough and does not realise sth are best kept unsaid :)