Posts by Gymnicus

    Remember that VBL has introduced this new league especially to ease things up for going to first league by attending second league pro first, to lower the steps of promotion from one big to two smaller steps. Otherwise they would not have done it. But we will see in February how things turn out.

    I know what the new league was introduced for. But from my point of view, the question for the two clubs from Borken and Stralsund is whether they want to take this intermediate step to the 2nd Bundesliga Pro or whether they want to be promoted directly to the Bundesliga. Both certainly have their advantages and disadvantages. For me personally, that is the explanation why the two clubs have not yet submitted a proper license application, such as Grimma.

    IMHO opinion you are completely wrong with the assumption, that the four teams which only opted for second league pro consider going directly to first league. This can be at best valid for Borken, which wanted to attend first league next season, the three others might stay in second amateur leagues instead. Even Borken is more likely to take the smaller, but easier step to second league pro now, since it is possible, which was not possible after end of the last season.

    For Borken and Stralsund. Stralsund also wants to get out in the first division. I remember a report before the duel between the two teams where it was reported. I can try to look up the report. Because it applies to both of them, I thought that it applies to the other two as well. But I'm not sure about Hamburg and Dingolfing. But last season there was talk of several teams considering promotion to the first division.

    I've looked through this thread and haven't found this info. If I missed it, sorry for the late repost.

    Introduction of the 2nd Bundesliga Pro

    On November 19th, at the DVV general meeting, the last step towards the establishment of the 2nd Bundesliga Pro was successfully taken. Because the DVV general meeting also voted unanimously for the establishment of the new league. By the November 1 pre-licensing deadline, the following fourteen interested teams had registered:

    1. DSHS SnowTrex Köln
    2. TSV Bayer 04 Leverkusen
    3. SCU Emlichheim
    4. VC Allbau Essen
    5. ESA Grimma Volleys
    6. SSC Freisen
    7. Skurios Volleys Borken
    8. Stralsunder Wildcats
    9. ETV Hamburg
    10. TV Dingolfing
    11. DVV junior bases
    12. DVV junior bases
    13. Rote Raben Vilsbiburg II
    14. TSV Flacht

    It should be noted that the first six clubs have already submitted a formal license application for the new league. Clubs seven to ten have submitted what is known as a pre-licensing application and now have until February 1, 2023 to decide whether they want to submit a formal license entry. The fact that these four clubs have not yet submitted a formal license application is probably due to the fact that they are actually interested in promotion to the first division and are now looking at whether they still want to go the intermediate way of becoming Bundesliga 2 pros. The two DVV junior bases are said to be in Berlin (VCO Berlin) and Dresden (VCO Dresden). The second team from the Roten Raben has applied for a vacancy, whatever that means exactly. In addition, TSV Flacht, whose first team currently plays in the seventh-rate district league, has applied for a wild card. I have also attached two links to this curious license application from TSV Flacht.


    Dyn also shows women's volleyball

    After the streaming service Dyn had already secured the rights to the men's Bundesliga, the streaming service has now also secured sublicenses for the women's Bundesliga because the broadcasting rights for the 2023/24 to 2025/26 seasons are actually still with Sport1. The sub-license includes all games of the women's national league, the DVV cup games from the round of 16 and the women's volleyball supercup.

    Link: Erste Frauen-Liga auf neuer Plattform: Dyn zeigt auch nationale Frauen-Wettbewerbe im Volleyball

    If someone followed the test match tournament in Schaffhausen, in which the local club Kanti Schaffhausen, Dresdner SC and the French club ASPTT Mulhouse took part, they noticed that Linda Bock got a ball in the game against ASPTT Mulhouse and then passed worried that she might have suffered a concussion. Fortunately, this was not confirmed and Alexander Waibl was able to give the all-clear.

    Regarding the friendly tournament itself, it should be said that Dresden finished the tournament in second place. Both Dresden and Mulhouse won their game against Kanti Schaffhausen 3-0. Dresden lost 3-1 against Mulhouse. Nevertheless, Alexander Waibl is satisfied with the tournament, especially because of the game against Kanti Schaffhausen. In addition, it was important to Alexander Waibl to gain match practice, which his young team needs.

    Link: DSC-Coach Waibl mit erstem Turnier zufrieden, Entwarnung bei Linda Bock

    Incidentally, the games would be broadcast live on YouTube. After the live broadcast, they can now also be viewed in re-live. Here are the links to the individual games:

    Surely the two people are rather unknown to most people here. But Florian Völker is the coach of the Bundesliga team Rote Raben Vilsbiburg and is also part of the coaching team of the German women's national team. Annika Kummer currently plays for BSC Berlin in the 2nd Bundesliga and got a taste of Bundesliga air with the Roten Raben Vilsbiburg in the 2018/19 season. At that time, however, Florian Völker was not yet the coach of the team. The two have known each other since they were part of the second team at Köpenicker SC.

    Link (if media integration does not work):

    Louisa Lippmann will form a team with Laura Ludwig after the latter returns from maternity leave. They'll aim for Paris 2024 but it will be a tough road, probably they won't play any tournaments yet together this year.

    I also see this as a very difficult mission. You have to see what kind of teams we already have and how many starting places there are. At the last Olympic Games there was a maximum of two starting places per nation, if I'm not mistaken. If you now look at the teams at this year's European Championships and only leave out Lippmann/Walkenhorst. Then you already have four teams with the following teams. fighting for the Olympics:

    • Svenja Müller and Cinja Tillmann (the rising star of this season)
    • Karla Borger and Julia Sude
    • Chantal Laboureur and Sarah Schulz
    • Sandra Ittlinger and Isabel Schneider

    We already have four strong teams fighting for the Olympics and then another team should come in with Louisa Lippmann and Laura Ludwig, but they will have a big disadvantage compared to the other teams because they don't know each other that well yet.

    In my opinion, the combination of Sandra Ittlinger and Louisa Lippmann might be interesting for 2028. Sandra can play both positions anyway and Louisa probably can too. In my opinion, that would be a promising combination.

    Is kozuch still playing beachvolleybal? It could be an interesting duo with lippmann

    Last year she took a longer break. Three weeks ago she reported back to her Instagram account and wrote about her sporting career. I think the last sentence is the most important sentence in this post: „Ob nun kämpferische Spielerin oder spielerische Kämpferin, auf dem Feld stehen möchte ich 'zukünftig' immer mit erfülltem Herzen.“ (english: „Whether it's a fighting player or a playful fighter, in the future I always want to be on the field with a full heart.“)

    So, based on this post, I think it's safe to say that she hasn't finished her career and that she might want to attack again if her mental health allows. The only question is when she will return and if so, with whom as a partner.

    Btw. Lippmann played European Championship in Munich with Kira Walkenhorst with a Wildcard 🤣🤣🤣😂

    Sorry for being so blunt: but what kind of nonsense is this? Other than the big names, I don't see any reason for a wildcard for either of them. Walkenhorst is coming back from her break last year and Lippmann has hardly played beach volleyball. You could have given the wildcard to other teams that deserved it more.

    Thanks for posting this here. It's nice to see that the sum has already been reached after one day. Nevertheless, I also wrote an email to Schwarz-Weiß Erfurt to inform them about the fate of Sara Kovac, if they might not have been informed about it already.

    It is hoped that Sara will be able to fully recover from this stroke of fate. I'm definitely keeping my fingers crossed.

    Don't know where to put it, but Louisa Lippmann will move to beach volleyball!

    It wouldn't be the first time. In 2020 she had already taken part in the German Beach Tour in Düsseldorf with Isabel Schneider. This time, too, she and her partner would certainly get a wild card for such a tournament.

    Maybe she will take a double role..OH in the club and libero in the NT..?

    Wasn't Kelsey Robinson doing that in the American NT as well some years ago?

    This is of course possible and certainly makes sense in some situations. With Kelsey Robinson, I can't personally assess that. I just think that such a dual role with Linda Bock doesn't make sense for me.

    For me, such a dual role only makes sense if you have no other choice. So like the OPP position, where it may be that an actual OH player has to play there. But we don't have such a constraint on the Libera position. Behind Anna Pogany we have several players who play at a similar level.

    I would put Elisa Lohmann and Linda Bock on the same level and that's why it doesn't make sense for me to take a Linda Bock who isn't used to this position and leave Elisa Lohmann at home. Vital Heynen has a different assessment than I do and I have to accept that too, even if I don't quite understand it.

    Not many surprises actually, anyway it would be interesting to see how Vital works out on the Opp position.

    I do think that Linda Bock is a bit of a surprise. She hasn't really played in Libera's position this season. That's why I would have thought that preference would be given to the well-rehearsed Elisa Lohmann, who also had a very good season. But maybe there will be another change before the World Cup, who knows.

    According to Serbian media reports, middle blocker Jelena Delić is about to move from Zagreb to Suhl.

    Link: Реконструкција Звезде: Павличевић нови тренер, клуб напуштају Дрча, Делић, Ђорђевић, Милуновић...

    Citation: “[...] средњи блокер Јелена Делић (21) на прагу је немачког Зула.” (transcription: “srednji bloker Jelena Delić (21) na pragu je nemačkog Zula.”)

    Notice: Зул = Suhl

    Suhl signed Yina Liu from Borken

    From my point of view a very interesting personality. A loss for Borken, of course, and I would have liked to see them promoted to the first division with Borken next season. But of course the change is understandable. With Suhl she can play European competition in her first year in the first league. You can't turn down an offer like that. After her mother Dai Ming Liu, her father Changcheng Liu and her younger sister Jenni Liu, she is the fourth of this Chinese-German family to play in the German Bundesliga.