Posts by suminj

Quote from throwawayanyway

Yes, and I think there are now talks about players getting a lot of money in the league like Park Jeong Ah, Lee Soyoung and even Kang Sohwi being "cursed", seeing the dip in performance after signing huge checks.

I think it affects them mentally, due to pressure from fans and club, since they are paid a lot of money (more money compared to even European / Turkish players).

Rather than being cursed, Sohwi was never a max contract level player

She was good and I think teams recruited her hoping she had potential to get better, but imo she has already hit her potential

Soyoung I will say after 20/21 with GS she had an insanely good season, but after that she was just always on the bench with injury

This is a pessimistic view, but I feel like she only hustled that season due to her FA coming up...

Quote from throwawayanyway

Meanwhile, players like Heejin and Soyoung are paid an exorbitant amount of money and do not even play that much.

There are now talks to change up the whole FA scheme as it has many limitations and is oftentimes pro-club than pro-player.

Ideally they should increase the minimum salary for younger players which will force the team to limit the number of max salary cap players

The only ones who deserve max or high salaries are KYK and Yang Hyojin, but Heejin, Soyoung, Park Jeongah definitely do not

Especially Heejin & Soyoung whose careers are so filled with season-out injuries, I think they've barely played most of their careers

Quote from throwawayanyway

but maybe in Japan?

Ah maybe since they have Asia quota, if that includes Korea!

But she'll return soon after because Korea's domestic pay is so much higher😅

Quote from throwawayanyway

Lee Dahyun has expressed her wish to play overseas

I'll be realistic... I like her as a player but she doesn't stand a chance overseas 😭

Height and limited foreigner slot, chances aren't high

Even the Red Sparks middle blockers are similar/better than her now

Fitting end for Kim's legacy, she can now retire without any regrets

A reverse sweep is definitely easier said than done, and if Pink Spiders allowed another team to reverse sweep them again after last season it'll be incredibly painful

Red Sparks did insanely well and they made me a fan through this championship series

A pity they couldn't win a championship for their franchise after so long, but let's see if they can convince Megawati to stay on

The way they pushed each match to 5 sets and Megawati !!!

Props to Yeum and Noran for playing through their injuries on painkillers and massages/icing when off court

The two middle blockers for coming back right after recovering from injury

And most of all Megawati for carrying the team and maintaining her condition throughout the season so well

I am in awe of Red Sparks, another 5-set match

Prove me wrong and win this Championship!!! I'd be more than happy!

I didn't dare to even hope for this because of the tight schedule of matches and injuries, against a well rested PS

This team has made me a fan

Kim is great as usual

Tuktu's 30 points with 51.06% success rate is Bukilic similarly with 28 points with 50.98%

But my goodness Megawati's 38 points with 47.37%

Also want to give credit to the Red Sparks players, Yeum was so impressive with the quick attacks to the middles

Park Eunjin & Jung Hoyoung despite being middles are actually pretty good at back-row digs

And Noran adjusted well though she was targeted by Pink Spiders' serves the whole match

Quote from throwawayanyway

I heard there were talks of her playing with Red Sparks again season - hope she gets the foreign player slot as she deserves the salary increase.

If she continues she will remain as Asian Quota player, if she wants to apply for Foreigner Slot she will need to rejoin the draft and won't remain with Red Sparks

But I heard that she won't be continuing next season to focus on her marriage(?)

Quote from Julian Chow

It seems Sparks are not done yet

Yep insane 34-36 set, but could they last 2 more games with their injured players? Especially after this long 5 set match..

I wish they could but it'll be difficult

Red Sparks has too many players with injuries, especially their main setter Yeum

I do think they're playing their best and hope they can win but I think its time to congratulate Pink Spiders in advance

Very unlikely for any team to repeat what HiPass did last year reverse sweeping in the championships down 2 games to none

And it's not as satisfying watching an injured team compete against a healthy and rested competition

Red Sparks is so plagued and unlucky with injuries
Would've easily went 2-0 against Hillstate if not for that, in fact they probably could've came out #1 in regular season too

Hope they put up a good fight in the championships, I'm rooting for them

Also, playing finals match just 2 days after their last semi-finals match is an insane schedule

I know the #1 seed should have an advantage but 2 games in 3 days + long travel

Who thought that was a good idea...

Quote from avid

That's exactly what I mean. They have resources to have better players but their contract rules (or rather, lack of) mean that any serious volleyball player overseas is not going to consider their league. Just look what what they've done to Vanessa Agbortabi, Jovana Miroslavjevic, Sherridan Atkinson, etc. The biggest American VB agent (or one of) was interviewed and said he would not consider PVF for any of his clients.

Appreciate the detailed reply

It seemed like much of the argument against PVF from those on LOVB camp (or in general), came from the standpoint that it was "worse volleyball" that makes no sense - just as how people enjoy watching NCAA more than pro volleyball, its not so much the skill itself but also the attention it can draw

Like how Korean league still has a large following despite its quality that's constantly dropping (they have been losing viewers due to that though, not significantly yet due to Asia Quarter & KYK)

But if you meant the contracts & how they lack the ability to attract players or hire good coaches, that I can understand and agree

It's surprising that PVF pays better than LOVB though, somehow been reading the opposite in comments

I think PVF may not attract many foreign players but they have been putting locals first which could be their main goal, losing Omaha will hit them big time though yes - but can MLV really set up a new league within less than a year?

Quote from avid

any league that is using Regan Pittman or Ally Batenhorst as opposites is not a serious league

Pittman is only playing Opposite cause all of Mojos other Opposites are injured

They've been trying different MBs as Opposites thus far - and Regan still plays like a middle with her slide attacks

We'll see if and when they play Yeliz Basa (their Turkish Opp) since her visa issues had been resolved & she arrived in the US

(unless they end up sidelining her like Rosir Calderon)

Of course, why the team didn't decide to draft/sign other (non-injured) Opposites instead is another question

I'm curious what your other reasons are for why this is "not good volleyball and they dont know what they're doing to develop that into such"

If that's the case, all the other leagues worldwide that are below a certain standard shouldn't have a league either

LOVB with better players are definitely playing higher level volleyball, but the model is just weird to hop onto as a fan

I'd only watch LOVB if I had a player I liked playing there

PVF I can see lasting longer, and with more teams onboard they can expand to full season one day too

Quote from throwawayanyway

Yes there seems to be a case of players getting such big salaries and flopping in the league. That's why I'm not a fan of revealing salaries honestly.

We don't even talk about Heejin and Soyoung getting paid big bucks in IBK yet not even playing full time.

Oh people are talking about KHJ & LSY all the time and how they're always unavailable due to injuries

Yet interestingly enough Soyoung has her best season right before free agency?

Disappointing that clubs still sign them (edit: for such high amounts) for their popularity though you can't deny the standard and pool of players in Korea has decreased so much that despite having Asian Quarter, these players are still being overpaid

Quote from fire_cai_bin

that's not in KRW is it

In krw its 7 billion 750 million

I'm just being lazy and converting 1,000krw = $1

So 775K

Park Jeongah is severely overpaid

How can someone being paid 775K only score 1 point with 10% success rate in 3 sets

Quote from throwawayanyway

It seems Orlando Valkyries is the team to beat in PVF

Abercrombie - Pornpun connection is still really good even during their IBK days.

Pornpun got injured during the match unfortunately, a sprained ankle after she landed wrongly after jumping for a block

Pukis came in and played even better for Orlando in Set 4, nice high sets.

I think Pornpun was tired after the consecutive Away matches, her sets were pretty low and led to some blocks

Atlanta, Orlando and Omaha are the top three teams respectively in the Preseason Selected Order

Quote from Rhaemon

I thought she signed with lovb

Not LOVB, PVF

She will play in Greece for the first half of the season in 2024, before playing for San Diego in PVF which starts from Jan 2025

Quote from killua

KYK's achievements > that twin's miniscule contribution to Korean volleyball and volleyball in general. Nobody's gonna miss her except maybe you and other drama enthusiasts from stan twitter

Actually KYK's achievements were at the Olympics and international level, she didn't bring much to Korean v-league itself

Of course if you followed her career in Turkey instead of watching the Korean league itself, you wouldn't have known that

I won't argue that an international level grants a much larger impact, but the domestic league was falling apart and not drawing much viewers while she was playing overseas

The twins on the other hand are the sole reason why the domestic v-league started thriving and even allowed the female league to gain even higher viewership than the male league, brought endorsements, commercials, and higher salary as a whole to the league

No one can debate this, of course it won't matter to you since most international fans wouldn't have watched the domestic league

Quote from VBdiamond

Is her twin's retirement official?

I suppose it is

Korean clubs want to sign with her but only on the condition of her acknowledging and apologizing for things she didn't do (for context/ 2)

So she decided to retire, I'm not sure why she isn't keen on playing overseas though, because she has received offers from good leagues/clubs in the past few years

Lee Dayeong will be playing for Panionios, a new club in the A1 Greek League for the first half of the season in 2024 before playing for San Diego in PVF in 2025

https://volleyland.gr/arthra/v…anionio-i-li-ntae-giongk/

they want Abondanza out😅