Posts by MeteA

    hernandez is criticised for not rotating the team almost not at all. He seems to lack balls to sub the captain ilkin even when she get blocked ten times during a bad set. She rarely uses his third oh which is quite on par with the other two. The team is great if he built it with visible limits and flaws and sthrengths.


    akbaş is called for his inability to bring the best or even average self of many good players and suspected of having ineffective training sessions especially because of having the worst block-defence and serve among top teams.


    fenolio just cost fener an easy but probably very important set in Champions League against vasas. The first game i mean where he just went full rotation while every point and set counts cuz of the quarter final match ups. He started well, having creative plays like slides by Ana. But he rarely used stysiak and other subs even in landslide league games which proved costly when vargas injured. Noone was ready to step up and fener including ana c looked just a random team without vargas. Sweep against zeren didnt help. Noone sees a coach’s touch yet.


    i hope this helps


    edit: most turkish fans on social media are teenage keyboard warriors too!

    Finally it is so nice to see someone talking about Hernandez, İlkin and Galatasaray. I agree and disagree with some of your comments. I agree that Hernandez is not in favor of doing rotations frequently but I disagree that it is because of not having nuts or balls against İlkin. It is because of having all line up 6+libero, all as the key players and having a target to be in top 4, do not give him that luxury to test the others during the league competition.


    İlkin surely one of the key players of the roster, the captain and becoming a symbol for not only the team but also for the club, but it is not only that, she is the one, who pushed the management to restructure a new team of this year. However, she is not untouchable and should be subbed from time to time in order to take a breath. Another reality is that, she is the best complete OH in the team and at least one of the best complete local OH at reception, at attack and floor defense. In the past, Hernandez tried to make some rotations between Kalandadze and Lazovic Dangubic but didn't work as expected. Meaning that, at least it was not fruitful. Giving an example on İlkin's performance that she was blocked 10 times but not subbed, is totally misleading. This happened twice, once in Aydın, blocked 7 times, which was a nightmare for her and for the team but at the same time, it was not her fault only but the lack of coordination between Bongaerts and also Berka Buse Özden's excellent performance at blocking defense. Similar thing happened to İlkin at Eczacıbaşı match in the 2nd set with 4 blocks back to back by Elif and 1 error, but in 1st, 3rd and 4th set, she was stunning. If she was subbed after the 2nd set, who knows what would happen. So being a key player like her and Timmerman is important, especially for critical moments. Have in mind that, Galatasaray lost 3 matches, during the absence of Timmerman.


    Vice president Cibara announced that, they are interested and negotiating with one player but we don't know yet, for which position or who... My opinion is that, definitely it should be for OPP, since that is the weakest point of the team and Yasemin Özel cannot take that responsibility to carry the team due to any possible injury or lack of performance of Alexia. Thanks god, she is doing well so far...


    Another point which I disagree (knowing that this is not your comment), labelling Galatasaray as a mid level team is truly funny. Galatasaray is the club, who brought volleyball to country in 1922 and since then, chasing the cups and winning some or qualifying to finals and semifinals many times in national and international competitions incuding Champions League and CEV Cup. Comparing with THY or others is really funny. As a fan of this team, I respect Vakıf, Eczacı or Fener, for winning many titles at national and international competitions and contributing to Turkish Volleyball a lot but this doesn't mean Galatasaray is a mid level team. If not convinced by the history, just look at the present. Who knows, maybe 3rd maybe 5th depending on the last match on Sunday for the 1st half. Girls in starting 6 are shining various NT players, except Eylül and if she keeps up this shape, she will be the new libero in the new NT season.


    I totally agree with serdar. Some people (not all) just talk, talk ,talk without knowing the Turkish League and Turkish Volleyball. I recommend them to make a bit drill down checks before making any general comments about our volleyball.


    By the way, last night Galatasaray reached up to quarter final at CEV Challenge Cup with the bench team. İlkin and Bongaerts were not in starting line up-starting 6 and after the 2nd set, whole bench came in and won 3-0. Kalandadze was a monster. Whole team was rotated and Hernandez was so happy. It seems like, the bench is working hard to grasp the jersey and hoping to see more rotations in the 2nd half.


    One more and important point I agree with you is "Most fans on social media are teenage warriors" but not Turkish fans only. It is the same in everywhere.I wish, you could follow the forum of Galatasaray. Some of those warriors and trolls tried to penetrate it but soon been noticed and passivated. Anyone can be critisized but not in a harsh way as it is in X or instagram, but the way we do decendly in forum and discuss everything and exchange ideas.


    This is all about the team so far! Sorry for keeping it long again but hope it is informative and don't know when I will be back again...

    You can derive the reception numbers from the percentages by following these steps;

    1- Since Pos% in match reports is the total reception efficiency (success) and not pure positive reception, you need to start with this efficieny (success) to find total Positive and perfect actual value (Pos= Positive+Perfect)

    2- Next step is to use perf%, in order to find the actual number of perfect reception.

    3- Once you have perfect number, you can use the formula to find positive, which is Positive=Pos-Perf

    4- In this case you will end up with 3 numbers(colums) which are Pos, Positive. Perf


    Example

    Just assume that a player received 40 balls (under sum) with Pos=50% and Perf=20%


    Her succesful reception on actual total number is Pos. Reception Number=40x50%=20 balls

    Her Perfect Reception Number is Perf. Reception Number=40x20%=8

    Her Positive Reception Number is Positive Reception Number=20-8=12


    After finding all the numbers for each team or player you can sum up to certain period by team or player. In this case, you may be able to calculate the efficiencies(in %) at any total level.


    In case you have a decimal number after calculation, you can easily turn into integer. I believe that, using the rounding will not cause any big discrepancy from the actual along with %.


    That's all from me and stay in peace.

    Enough of this now. Clearly the video didn’t need to be shared here but the most likely scenario is that WZP simply didn’t notice that it was already posted on the other thread. It does not need to be such a big deal, though he should definitely restrain himself from claiming anyone has a complex.


    MeteA you can consider yourself officially warned now to stop the insults and fighting.


    Justbegoodtome im not moving the posts because it will just encourage more senseless fighting in some other thread, better just to end it here.

    Dear Sisko,

    I consider you as a fair person. As you also confirmed, that the video didn't need to be shared here. Saying most likely scenario is that, simply the user didn't noticed that it was already posted on the other thread is not convincing. The reason is;


    1- On friday, there were many arguments and critics about Ebrar's atitute, which was not defendable. During these discussions in the thread 2024 Women's VNL. WZP was also there with his own comments and likes and it was OK. I have also shared my opinion about it on the same thread 2024 Women's VNL. He then decided to share his opinion, carrying in Türkiye NT 2024 intentionally, criticising Ebrar again. It was also ignored.

    2- Yesterday, the Video shared by volleyball22 in the thread 2024 Women's VNL and once again there were various comments on it. The general opinion was, if that was done intentionally Simge's behavior was wrong. I particularly asked to chill and keep going peacefully.

    3- The next day, I checked Türkiye NT 2024 and saw that video with a comment about Simge as "smallest person" which we all know what it means in real. A person should be so naive to believe in that, he didn't read the post of volleyball22 along with the following posts and comments, while he (WZP) sharing two critics about Turkish players in Türkiye NT 2024 back to back, with the last one insulting Türkiye's NT player Simge with allusive wording. Mainly my reaction was to this behavior, as if it was not enough to discuss everything in 2024 Women's VNL to spread it to another thread (as you also have worried).

    4- I wished you could intervene earlier to stop this meaningless psychologic war. I don't mind and no objection to your warning, if it will help to stop it. Simply I am OK and done, however I have some concerns about this one sided warning that, it may encourage further attacks. I hope I am mistaken.

    watch your mouth thats the first thing

    second thing is that it's not spreading hate, you are trying to justify her while the fact is that she didn't shake her opponents hand and no matter if it was an accident (which I highly doubt) or not, if you watch comments of the fans of your NT on twitter/tik tok/instagram under this video the majority is saying that this is what Korneluk deserves since she was rude towards the Turkish team, that Korneluk started the staredowns and that Simge did a good thing which is another level of hypocrisy and just stupid

    stop being so defensive because such actions should be shared and talked about because it should NEVER happen in sports, and it goes not just to Simge but to all the fans trying to distort the facts and justify the behaviour of some players by all means

    OOPS. Another idiot to tell me what to do. Tell you what... Some people deserves more than this. You angels and saints, you have no common sense to understand how it was reacted to this in the thread Volleyball Nations League. Nobody defended that scene by saying, if it was done intentionally, it was wrong. You had better check it once again. In order to continue your wanking, you are trying to tell everybody that, this or that was said and done on twitter, tik tok instagram and bla bla bla.


    I don't have any account on twitter or Tiktok and try to follow volleyball, transfers and news here on these treads, thinking that decend and serious people are here. Mostly yes, but not you or people who attacks like hyena in packs. You feel the right for meaningless attacks but when someone reacts, you try to play innocent and victim. I feel sorry for you.

    Actually you don't worth to be replied but let me tell you this. Only idiots, same as you believe in what you say about, "you don't read each single comment in these threads" since you are everywhere in these threads continuously.

    Also you don't have that capacity to judge who I am and also it is not your business.

    Try another door to fool others, who acts and behave like you. What you are trying to do is obvious.

    The smallest person on earth, Simge Akoz:


    https://x.com/sfvmaye/status/1804822601912500520

    And you are the most pathetic idiot person on earth. What is the purpose to share same shit in this thread, which was discussed in VNL thread yesterday? thought that it was closed and while requesting to chill, cooking it again and again. It seems that you have been wounded personally so bad from last year.

    Whatever you do, you will not be able to spread the seeds of hate, between two communities and have in mind that, many high level Polish players will play in Turkish League in the coming season. Welcome to all newcomers to Turkish League and once again congrats to Poland for their medal.

    I saw this, and I can’t believe my eyes because this is the opposite of the Simge I know. I had the opportunity to chat with her, and she is a ball of positivity. If this is not a mistake, I agree that this is the highest level of stupid behavior, and this is not the first time Korneluk has given a staredown.

    I have watched that video back to back maybe more than 20 times. Simge, shooked the hand of the player in front of Korneluk and Korneluk was the last player. In such a mood of disappointment she seemed to be in a hurry to leave the court to changing room, I also want to believe in that, it was not intentional. Else, it is a mistake. I also know that, she is not that kind of person and a real professional for so many years. Continuing that, it was Ayça. Ayça noticed that Korneluk turned her back to say something or touch to Simge, continued and passed by and then in the last second turned back towards to Korneluk to give five. Behind Ayça it was İlkin, who noticed that confusion, stopped for a second and shooked Korneluk's hand.


    It started with Ebrar (which I didn't like either), then continued with Vargas along with some stupid comments and now this. I don't know who else will be on target and what is next to create perception with SMART!! remarks...


    I would say to all, let's stop these meaningless topics and continue to talk about magnificent Japan, great Italian team or well deserved medal of Poland. Criticise Türkiye about what they did wrongly in the final rounds or the other teams and predictions, here or in a new thread. If it continue like this, I cannot imagine what will happen during Olympic Games.

    A very big congratulations to both Italy and Japan. I feel so glad, especially for Japan. At the beginning of this tournament, I mentioned that they are my favorites and nice to see that, it is happening. Well deserved without any reasoning such as A team B team.

    I just saw this. I made my apologies earlier. I am terrible remembering names and spelling for that matter, but I thought I got Tubag’s and Derya’s name correctly. Anyway, I like Meliha not because of what I read on X if any, instead of what I watched from FB games during this past season. IMHO she is way better than Tugba and Derya for sure. I have high hope for Ilkin as well. I think Turkiye needs to heal their wounds and get ready for the OG. If they want to go deep in OG they need Hande, Ilkin and Zehra for sure, and Meliha otherwise I don’t see much hope prevailing against Italy, Brazil, and perhaps against some other teams like China, Japan and Serbia.


    I also think contrary to what you believe that Ana C. is overall playing very well. Sure, she may have some down games but over all she is very important for Brazil to succeed getting the gold medal. Will see!!

    I truly like Meliha, especially her humble personality. Furthermore, she was way better than many of the OH's, especially at receiving with 51%. Very solid. I agree that she could be called to NT from the very beginning but I believe that, Santa will not make any changes in the current roster. I also personally wish to see her in the roster again. Now or later. All she needs is to improve her attack efficiency and take more time in her team. I hope, staff change in Fener will be in favor of Meliha.


    I do not remember saying someting about Ana Cristina. Maybe I forgot. All I can say about her is, she (Ana Cristina) is a very solid attacker at OH but needs to improve her defensive and receiving skills. She cannot be compared with Meliha in defense. Meliha is way better than Ana Cristina in that area.

    Do you think a sane adult would approve of Karakurt's actions? Of course no. She acts extremely unsportsmanlike towards the other teams. Sometimes the other team does not respond to this, and sometimes there is no response, as is the case today. Personally, I do not support the provocative actions of the other side, and it is not possible for me to support them. But I must admit that it adds color to volleyball. In other sports, if tension rises between the two sides, this makes the game exciting.

    However, it would be unfair to criticize Karakurt only for her actions on the court. She is openly experiencing his sexuality in a radically Islamic country like Türkiye, and this is the first time in Türkiye's history. Outside of volleyball, the government and Islamic supporters constantly attack him for her sexual identity. That's why she has so many supporters. In fact, a global brand like Elidor even made an advertising campaign based on it. I won't go into too much detail, but in summary, Karakurt makes provocative statements against those who hate her not only in volleyball but everywhere. She has developed a defense mechanism. Her life is quite difficult and I can understand her at some points. She sees volleyball as a show on the court. I don't think she had a bad attitude towards any player she shouted at on the court. In general, her teammates like her very much. As I said, it is not possible to support his provocative actions on the court, but there is a big “but” behind it.

    Dear Tunc, I can see that you are trying to defend Ebrar with BUT, but there is no but. Nothing could be a reason to this kind of Psychedelic harmful attitude.


    1- You are saying that, "She is openly experiencing his sexuality in a radically Islamic country like Türkiye" which is completely wrong statement. First of all, Türkiye is not a radically Islamic country. Of course, there is a pressure on Türkiye by radicals but this doesn't mean that Türkiye is a radical country. I don't want to go further into politics deeper.

    2- What is the meaning of "openly experiencing his (her's) sexuality" ? The very big majority do not give a damn about her sexual preference and me neither. All I want to see volleyball, not stupidity. I don't care whether she is heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual or whatever she is. In sportsworld, we see many men/women with different sexual preferences and nobody gives a damn. It could be only a magazine material. No one is pushing her to share anything but If that is her strategy, then no reason to complain about anything. More or less, you may get similar reaction/critics in every community but in sports, more important is; her performance and personality and not her sexual preference.

    3- You are saying that, "she has developed a defense mechanism. Her life is quıte difficult and and I can understand her at some points". Have in mind that, this is a team sport and her attitude impacts others moral motivation as well. She can chose to play tennis or any other sports individually. She can do whatever she wants and penalized individually but this is team sports and further that, she represents Türkiye with the jersey she wears in NT.

    4- You are saying that, "he sees volleyball as a show on the court. I don't think she had a bad attitude towards any player she shouted at on the court. In general, her teammates like her very much". Yes all sports are also considered a show but she is trying to play psycho one woman show in a team, which impacts negatively both her teammates, opponents, all volleyball fans and usually harmful particularly to herself. ı don't care how good she is in her personal life or what she does outside. All I know and see that, she doesn't feel any responsibility, which is again another problem.

    5- The day before, she was pathetic in both ways, her performance and attitude. She became double pathetic.

    6- In order to see respect, you should show respect to whole environment, within and outside the court. I wrote this before. As Atatürk said " I like the sportsman/sportswoman who is intelligent, good athlete and having moral/ethics. Moral/ethics is not in between two legs. It is in the head. This team is one of the most important symbol of Modern Türkiye, representing the whole nation and we are very proud of it. No one should allow any person to demolish it because of irresponsible stupid and egoist attitude.


    A week ago or so, someone tried to attack on her while she (Ebrar) seemed to be cool doing her job and I reacted upon that it was so unfair to dig the same hole. Now I can see that, she became a loose cannon again, not predictable and I feel regret about it.


    Someone has to take an immediate action upon this. A very strong warning or whatever is needed to be done. The team is more important than a player and good reputation is more important than any point scored. If she needs a very strong warning, it should be done now. Some idiots are using her stupid attitude as a tool against Türkiye. Everyone should feel proud of their countries and their NTs and not try to find excuses to stupidity, no matter who or what the reason is...

    Well I don't know what you mean by you don't want to discuss about volleyball, but in any case for me, I don’t believe Stysiak scoring couple more points would have made any difference. Look at the statistics, Turkiye made a lot of errors (I think it was 34), you can’t win a game with that many errors. You shouldn’t even be in the game making with that many errors. And most of the errors were coming from Cebcice and Ivegen as well as from Ebrar. So, I think Santa should have substituted Cansu since her passes to wing players were so understood by Poland and causing Turkish wing players to make so many mistakes, but also Turkiye needed a better wing player maybe like Hande to execute better, and or Meliha to have a better reception and better blocking. Turkiye simply didn’t get much out of Cebice and Tugba besides making a lot of errors. And I don’t know why they invited Arici since she is an unusable MB. Plus, I didn’t understand why Turkiye didn’t serve on to #15? I think that allow her to become a hero of the game. Let’s see tomorrow if Italy starts serving on #15 and how she would play.

    Most of the time, I read your post with respect and many times I like however, this time I cannot let it go like this, since you are repeating the same, back to back.

    1- #15 has a name. She is Martyna Czyrnianska and very well deserved to be called and recognized with her name

    2- Back to back writing Cebcice which again is wrong and should be Cebecioğlu. Full Name Derya Cebecioğlu. Also Tuğba İvegin, not İvegen.

    3- Reading back to back your opinion about Meliha. Yes Meliha is correct but only her name. I really wonder, what makes you think like that and bring her name here, back to back while İlkin, Hande and Ebrar are the main OH's of this team? Especially I wonder, what makes you avoiding to metion İlkin's name? Once again, if I say something or share any stats, people might jump in again that, I am doing it, because I am the fan of İlkin. In fact, there is nothing wrong with it but I am not bringing to your attention just because I like her, but I like and respect her consistent performance and personality through all the year, including previous VNL and Turkish League. Last year, up to quarterfinals (including quarterfinal), she played excellent with high level of attacks reception and digs with consistency. She broke Turkish OH'S all times records in scoring with 460 points in the season Sultanlar League, also with highest scoring ratio in Turkish OH's with 3.97 points/sets, Highest attacking ratio with 42% (a bit decline compared to last year), best receiver with 54% (better than Ayça (53%), Gizem Örge and Simge Aköz (52%). Probably, you are very influenced with many stupid comments at X (Twits). You cannot find much about İlkin there, since she is not a commercial person and not the player of Fener, Ecza or Vakıf. I will not share any other figures, comparing Meliha or others but I recommend you to check from official sites of TVF. Sooo, I would only say that, Meliha cannot be an option, if İlkin and Hande are in good shape, recovered from injury and if Ebrar takes a kind of rehabilitation. If any of these players are out because of any health issue, then maybe and may be next year, if Fener gives her more time in the team and if she manages to raise the bar.

    4- Today, all our OH's performance was pathetic at attack with 1 digit or negative attack efficiency and truly was a miracle to win 2 sets from Poland and those 2 sets won because of Vargas.

    4- I hope Martyna Czyrnianska keeps her shape and consistency. It would be joyful to watch her new team, just because of her existence there.

    Sorry Taylor10 but this time I do not agree with you.


    Santarelli almost confirmed that, there will be 2 liberos at Olympics and most probably, they will be Gizem and Simge. He was too much criticized about his decision to play with 3 libero and particularly with Ayça and pretty sure that, in case of any failure at any point, he will not put himself in a position of a scapegoat. When Simge is compared with Ayça, Ayça always considered as bench player and particularly in this VNL, she failed all the time, added almost nothing to team. Simge also didn't perform so good especially against Brasil but always more reliable and experienced to such high level matches. You can also confirm it from the stats of latest VNL. Especially comparing Simge's performance vs Ayça's performance.


    Secondly, you are saying that, İlkin does not give you confidence to replace Ebrar in back row but have in mind that, you are talking about the best local OH receiver and defender of Turkish league and in spite of one full match she played and came in from bench in a few match, she was the best receiver and overall, having highest stats in perf. reception with 32%, which is so good and a bit of solution to receiving problem + 80% digs in defense. You can also confirm it from the VNL stats.


    You can also check below, the interview with Santarelli and his feeling about how upset because of İlkin's injury (and of course Zehra's).


    There were almost no blocks from the Turkish side in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th sets. Zehra is missed so much; this middle rotation does not provide TUR with anything at a high level. Santa should consider bringing one of Kübra, Yasemin, or Deniz Uyanık instead of Beyza. Also I did not udnerstand why Hande was out for the last two sets? Congrats to China, they were great and deserved to win:super:

    About Hande, if you check the match stats of 3 OH's Tuğba, Hande and Ebrar, you can easily get the point.