Posts by bobaas

    Isn't it that Meliha can not be in the short roster with Vargas? Like last year she was at VNL only 3rd week when Vargas was not there.

    There are some rumours that from season 24/25 in all leagues libero will be treated as "stateless person" which means that they won't count to the foreigner limit. It is what Stenzel said when she talked about her future and will to play abroad.

    I put few more arguments in algorithm. For example that you need to play 3 teams that you did not played year before. And that you need to play against your 3 traveling buddy's. 😁

    It is too complicated for FIVB ahahah And the argument about playing with the 3 teams that a team did not play year before is not valid because USA didn't play with NED in 2022 and 2023.

    I did some other type of calculations and Serbia don't play with Turkey, Dominikana and France. Let's see who is right 😂

    It is not about calculations. It is about WR and then they just made some kind of scheme and decided that team no. 1 will not play with team no. 8, 9 and 14. I believe that the positions of teams in WR in my tables are correct and if the same scheme fits to VNL 2022 and VNL 2023... Let's wait and see.

    I need a ranking from before WCH 2022 to see if I will be able to reach to some conclusions that help to define opponents in each week.

    After some time I managed to find out how it is. I ranked the teams based on WR after VNL 2022 and made a table. Then I found WR from 2021 and put the teams from 2022 VNL in right order in a table for 2023 VNL and the teams with whom each team didn't play matched. BUL replaced RUS so they played with their opponents in 2022. If someone is interested I attached Excel file with the tables.


    It looks like this for 2024:


    TUR will not play with JPN, DOM, BUL

    USA - POL, GER, THA

    ITA - SRB, NED, KOR

    BRA - CHN, CAN, FRA

    SRB - ITA, DOM, KOR

    CHN - BRA, NED, THA

    POL - USA, GER, BUL

    JPN - TUR, CAN, FRA

    DOM - TUR, SRB, KOR

    NED - ITA, CHN, BUL

    GER - USA, POL, FRA

    CAN - BRA, JPN, THA

    THA - USA, CHN, CAN

    BUL - TUR, POL, NED

    FRA - BRA, JPN, GER

    KOR - ITA, SRB, DOM

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    I'm sure Germany won't make it, but my problem is that even after all tournaments this year Heynen still said in interviews that he believes they can qualify and that they'll fight hard for it next summer. Leaving the team at this point for me would be morally really dirty :down:

    He is like that. He talks a lot and pulls the wool over others eyes. And when good opportunity arrises he takes it. If he will go to Iran it will be "money talk". It is unlikely that Iran will go to Paris either.

    After 2024 OG or right away? If he really leaves German women before 2024, he's an even much bigger you-know-what than I thought. All the talk about the Olympic dream and how much he wants to achieve it with this team :whistle:

    Giving the circumstances (current WR and injuries of the crucial players and not a big group of player to choose from) it is very unlikely that he will make it with Germany.

    Oh yeah that's right, I was confused and wishful thinking :gone: thanks! So the final match of VNL which will decide who qualifies for Paris could be NL vs Canada :sos:


    I think I have the world ranking from April 2023 (so before NT season started) by doing calculations, but not sure if you can find a list from a specific date or sth

    I need a ranking from before WCH 2022 to see if I will be able to reach to some conclusions that help to define opponents in each week.

    It is still unclear with whom each team will play each weekend . I tried to see if I will be able to know it for POL but over 3 weeks POL "meets" with all 15 teams in poolsand it makes it hard because I can't say which teams we won't play. However, according to the competition formula the teams are divided into four groups based on the world ranking at the end of the last edition of VNL. Then each team plays with 3 teams ranked 1-4, 3 teams ranked 5-8, 3 teams ranked 9-12 and 3 teams ranked 13-16.

    The WR after VNL 2023 and group divisions was like that:


    1-4: USA, BRA, TUR, ITA

    5-8: CHN, SRB, JPN, POL,

    9-12: DOM, NED, GER, CAN

    13-16: BUL, KOR, FRA, THA


    With that being said, Sassy your are not correct. It means that NED will for sure play with DOM, GER and CAN. They will not play with 1 team from other groups.


    PS: Does anuone knows if it is possible to see the WR from August 2022 for example?

    ı wonder how the rest of the tournament matchups will be decided? draw again?


    or it will be like in the champions league?

    Most probably it will be like in basketball in Tokyo 2020.


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    Teams qualified were divided into two pots:

    • Pot D comprised the three first-placed teams from the group phase, along with the best second-placed team.
    • Pot E comprised the two remaining second-placed teams, along with the two best third-placed teams.

    Draw principles:

    • Each game pairing had one team from Pot D and one team from Pot E.
    • Teams from the same group could not be drawn against each other in the quarterfinals.
    • The second-placed team from Pot D could not be drawn against a third-placed team from Pot E.

    It was written in polish newspaper that there will be drawing of lots to determine groups at OG 2024.

    Teams will be divided according to the ranking. Host (France) will be seeded as no. 1 (WR1) and will be allocated to Group A, WR2 team to Group B and WR3 team to Group 3.


    The other teams will be in 3 different pots and will be drawn to either Group A, B or C:

    I: WR4, WR5, WR6

    II: WR7, WR8, WR9

    III: WR10, WR11, WR12


    It will be officially confirmed in October.