Yasemin Guveli would be nice present too
Why not a throuple?
Posts by Janko
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Also i am surprised by TVF offer, its a business i know, but i always looked at them as friendly federation to us.
Even while liking them, I can't imagine why anybody would think that...
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I have to say, it's kind of insane how much Rykhliuk is playing at age 35. True, she has free summers, but still.
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Now that we are at the halfway point, let's look at % of those who had at least 200 spikes:
And now points per set:
https://tvf-web.dataproject.co…gComplete.aspx?ID=74&rt=1
The fact that she now has help, and her club can afford to rest her, helped to make Boskovic undoubtedly the most efficient player thus far.
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29, on 44%. Van Ryk 24 on 42%
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Whoever wins, at least we know the match hasn't disappointed!
Now, to see whether Fener can complete the comeback.
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This might be the most important match of the first half of the season. Let's hope it's not one-sided.
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I like Serbian NT, bcs I generally liked the country and the girls are well known and loved in Turkey, but... All I will say; let's remember the last NT TVF stole a coach from and how much they fell out on the international scene.
Could care less at this point.Considering Dutch NT, in their period of greatness, had reached the heights that you are yet to, despite all their limitations and your advantages, I wouldn't be quite so confident about your ability to ruin other NTs.
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Problem solved. Welcome!
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I don't know. Head is too clouded to analyse my feelings and thoughts thoroughly.
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why do you care about erdogan's money? tvf has like 30 sponsors.
and why this is even allowed? this is political. when i wrote political, it got deleted.
No, it isn't. It's an offhand remark, a shorthand for "financially loaded". Personally, I don't care if it's state or private money.
As for what YOU did, well...
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There's a swirl of emotions right now in me, but the dominant one is disgust. Disgust at Santarelli for being a cheap bitch, disgust at OSSRB for being cheap bitches, disgust at TVF for shamelesly throwing around their Erdogan money and perhaps most distressingly, disgust and shame toward myself for ever liking Turkish NT because this is not the first time they did such a dastardly move, and I was blind to it because it didn't concern me and my interests. It isn't pleasant to be confronted with irrefutable evidence that you are self-centred and lack empathy. For what it's worth, I'm sorry Dutch fans.
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Funny tidbit concerning that: Serbia defeated his teams at European Championships in 2011, 2017, 2019 and 2021. He is yet to have a European gold. Maybe he thinks we owe him one, hence agreeing to a lower salary to finally get it.
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There is one specific issue I can already foresee. Having in mind Gui's Terzic-like tendency to have beefs with players, how will this affect Maja and to a lesser extent, Tijana. Okay, he did some subtle shade-throwing at Boskovic on several occasions , but that could be written off as sour grapes on his part (particularly since she seems to have no ego). But his history with Maja is more turbulent. I can recall off the top of my head at least a few instances where her celebrations were very pointedly in his direction. It is clear from her interview in that Bosnian documentary about Tijana from a few days ago that she doesn't consider herself a retired player. Will this nudge her to an official retirement?
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Better him than any local choice, I guess. But I can't muster any enthusiasm.
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and looking at Italy, half of the representatives are not of native Italian origin.
Just to cut short any going off on this tangent, any post on this will be deleted, first because it's off topic, and second because it's almost literally opening a whole another can of worms, and this thread doesn't need any more passion right now. So fair warning.
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Display MoreThe reason that I've called it far fetched hypothetical situation is that Egonu is only playing in turkey for half a season (unlike Vargas or Carutasu), she already plays in a NT that she can compete at high level international competitions (unlike Vargas or Carutasu). If turkey would really go for 'player shopping' they would try Boskovic probably rather than Egonu since Boskovic has been playing in turkey for many years, she loves the culture, Istanbul and she can even speak Turkish a bit. So she is a more likely candidate than Egonu to naturalize to Turkish in that sense. However player shopping doesn't really work in real life. Players are not slaves and do have freewills to decide not to accept any offer coming to their ways. Even clubs can not sign with any player they want even after offering them shit loads of money, let alone a federation could force a player to naturalize. Only thing a federation can do is to make an attractive offer to a player and then it is up to the player to accept it or not. A player can accept to be naturalized or herself can demand it. There could be several reasons:
- Pragmatical reasons: her current NT doesn't participate international tournaments (Cuba, Russia) or her current NT is a weak one that she can't participate to big tournaments like Olympics or WCh (carutasu from Romania, Haak from Sweden or Jack from Trinidad & Tobago, Mihajlovic from Bosnia and Herzegovina)
- Sentimental reasons: she married with someone from the prospective country (Natalia hanikoglu from the past, Sinead Jack's current situation, even Leon could be considered in this category). Or she played in that country for many years and feels close to the culture (Carutasu, Sorokaite, Costagrande)
It is not necessarily be only one of these two reasons, indeed it is mostly a combination of two. And at certain cases a player decides to be naturalized, like Carutasu or Vargas and at certain cases they don't want to, like Haak from Sweden, Boskovic from Serbia.
All in all Turkey is not forcing anyone to naturalize, they are just use their resources to get their program the best success which is something all federations do. Also we should keep in mind that, in naturalization cases mostly clubs are heavily involved too since they have a big incentive as using that player as local, so it is not only Federations initiating or driving the process.
I don't expect turkey to naturalize more players unless clubs propose it to use their players as locals. The only one I can imagine being possibly naturalized in the future could be Arina if Russia's ban from international tournaments would be prolonged further. She is very young and too good to be excluded from international tournaments. And she has already played in turkey for a while. But this is only my speculation/wishful thinking. I didn't hear any rumours about this possibility.
A very fine post. I have some quibbles here and there, but I won't do it, because such a well-constructed argument deserves to be encouraged, and by contrast shit some of your compatriots have thrown here to be discouraged so kudos from me.
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For what it's worth, B92 just said in an article that 200.000 will be 4 times the amount he was earning here, with no source given for that statement.
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Stop quoting that post. There shouldn't be any trace of it on this site.
Any post that has no connection with volleyball, players or Turkey (in regards to volleyball) will be deleted.
