Congratulation Chemik !
This energetic game can be compared only to last year's win over Dinamo Kazan.
Atmosphere here was great - match perfectly organized (you cannot see it on TV)
Posts by mariuszj1939
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Italy - Bulgaria 3-2
France - Slovenia 3-2 -
Time for Poland to learn how to play "useless" matches in big tournaments
Congrats to Slovenia !
Time for Italy to learn how to play "useless" matches in big tournaments
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Italy - Slovenia 3:1
France - Bulgaria 3:1 -
I agree with u. Some good teams will cry in january.
and during OG
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Congratulations to Slovenian team.
They played on the same level as with The Netherlands.Poland looked very tired / without standard performances of Kurek and Bieniek. Jarosz is needed.
I think it's just Polish rhytm one v.good year and next one totally oposit.
So next year has to be better. I still strongly believe in this team.PS - Poland tried to avoid in next round RUS/ITA and ... they achieved it.
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Bulgaria - Germany 3:2
France - Serbia 3:1
Poland - Slovenia 3:1
Russia - Italy 2:3
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Play off
Belgium - Germany 1:3
Serbia - Estonia 3:1
Netherlands - Slovenia 3:2
Italy - Finland 3:0
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Czech Republic 3-1 Netherlands
Bulgaria 3-1 Germany
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Netherlands 0-3 Germany
Czech Republic 1-3 Bulgaria
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Netherlands 1-3 Bulgaria
Germany 3-1 Czech Republic
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Croatia 0-3 France
Italy 3-0 Estonia
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France 3-0 Estonia
Croatia 0-3 Italy
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France 1-3 Italy
Estonia 3-2 Croatia
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Slovenia 3-2 Belarus
Poland 3-0 Belgium
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Belarus 1-3 Belgium
Slovenia 0-3 Poland
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Belarus 0-3 Poland
Belgium 3-1 Slovenia
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Slovakia 0-3 Serbia
Russia 3-0 Finland
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Serbia 3-1 Finland
Slovakia 0-3 Russia
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Serbia 2-3 Russia
Finland 3-2 Slovakia
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Diouf is not an athlete nor a volleyball player. A 202cm "player" unable to block, jump, serve and receiving.
I saw her during two matches at Final Four Champions League in Szczecin and she was great so please don't say she is not a volleyball player.
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Up to now nothing special happened except Azerbaijan v.poor performance and Hungary qualification.
Real ECH will start as from Wednesday.Netherlands team is not as strong as they showed against Italy. Italy played without fighting spirit with a lot of mistakes (plus Dutch fan support).
Serbia may suffer soon because of World Cup long tournament.
Unfortunately, I couldn't see any Turkey or Russia match so cannot comment their performances. -
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If we want to bring some equality to the sport, then the following solution in this order of play might work better:
1- Olympic host
2- World champion
3- World Cup winner
4,5,6,7,8- Continental champion (CEV, NORCECA and so on)
9,10,11- 3 World qualification tournaments as we always had in the past
12- World league with a special pool for all non-qualified countries, where winner gets both an Olympic ticket and a place in the final sixThis way would give all teams of the world 4 qualification tournaments, 5 to those competing in the WC, all very spread out in the busy FIVB calendar.
I like it (especially world league ticket) !
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You aren't better than FIVB.
You wrote sometimes. For FIVB that would mean sometimes Vice from Europe one time per 12 years and always Vice from NORCECA and AVC.
Rules must be clear.
Rules are clear !
see examples :World Champion fm Europe and the same European Champion fm Europe means European vice Champion goes to OG /instead of add. continental tournament/.
World Champion fm South America, World Cup winner other team fm South America so even third team fm continental Championship is able to qualify to OG -
well, as i said before, the last intercontinental qualify. tournament is very stupid. instead of holding that one, they could have just given the 3rd spot in WC a qualifier to rio (in this case, POL men and US women).
there's no reason necessarily to make world champion an automatic qualifier to olympics, that's what the 2 (or 3) top spots at WCup are for.
they should just have the following formula for olympics: host country, top 3 world cup, 5 continental representatives, then 3 qualifiers from a world qualifier (they could hold 2 or 3 separate tournaments, with proportional representation from 5 federations -- they did have 3 separate qualifiers in 2012 for men, i think).
I disagree regarding world champion. It was in force for years. World Championships are the most difficult competitions and there is no "lucky champion" because there are 24 the best teams and difficult system/long tournament. World Champion always gets OG spot in handball or basketball.
World Cup is created only for OG qualification with limited representation of strong teams (valid as from 1992 as OG qualification with 1 spot only).
I think the best system was in the past (I proposed below for present format with 12 teams):
- previous OG title holder 1
- World Champion 1
- Continental Champions (or sometimes vice Champion) 5
- Intercontinental tournaments 5or
- previous OG title holder 1
- World Champion 1
- World Cup 1
- Continental Champions (or sometimes vice Champion) 5
- Intercontinental tournaments 4 -
Before every OG qualification in volleyball we have the same questions :
- why (like in basketball or handball) World Champion is not promoted automaticly to OG ?
- why continental championships are not part of OG qualification /it means all of them are not so important in year before OG/ ?
- why special continental tournamets are added instead use of continental championships ?
- why always Asian qualification is combined with world qualification and always held in Japan ?
- why European strong continent has always only two places in world qualifications /see how it goes in handball or basketball - World/Continental Championships determinate teams participated in final qualification ?
- and finally why FIVB rules are changed in every four years ?(of course we could talk about unexpected changes in FIVB World League or World Championship formats ...) - it's hard to follow them
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This edition of WC surprised me.
First of all - (without presence of Brazil) all top 4 teams didn't lose any game against other lower ranked teams.
There were only few 3:2 results and no one in top 4.
First time we seen (once again) new rules presented by FIVB where 3rd team didn't qualify to OG and ... bronze medalists crying - shame FIVB !!!
Congratulations to USA, Italy, Argentina and Japan. Good job. Last game of Italy was their absolutely best game in WC so Poland cannot be blamed. I didn't expect 10-1 will be not enough. -
Poland looked great also today, with a good come back in the third and then controlled the match in the fourth. They need one more win...
Italy will face three tough opponents in the last turn, let's see how we'll arrive there!
I agree with you - we'll know much more on Saturday after USA-ITA, POL-IRI and RUS-ARG.
I think there will be the same as for women WC 10-1 enough to qualify. Last three days of competition are crucial (ITA-RUS, POL-USA, USA-RUS and POL-ITA) however do not forget Argentina and ... Iran. Both teams are able to grab some points (or even win) from favourites.
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Yes Iran can, recently Iran B team won Australia A team in Asian championship, and last year they smashed Australia in W CH. By the way, Asian qualifiers is a really easy way to qualify. imagine a tournament with Iran, Australia, China, Japan, Serbia, Italy, Venezuela and Cuba or Canada. 4 teams will qualify through this, I think even with a bad performance Iran can be at least 4th in that tournament. even I think we will have more than 1 Asian in Rio.
Ok, it's much easier but still we do not have all participants. We'll see more (Japan, Australia, Iran) after World Cup.
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Both Iran and US can easily qualify through continental elimination tournaments. I wonder if they treat this tournament as a must win one
Are you sure ? Do not forget Australia will play in Asian tournament !
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Maybe Logan Tom?
We will know it latest on 19th Aug.
It's hard to believe I'll not see Glinka in Azoty Arena anymore !