Posts by dagdelenler

Quote from MeteA

LOL.. If you would say Hande and Meliha contributed more than İlkin, then this could be more reasonable, considering the time they played during the years while İlkin had ACL injury for 2 years and before. I guess, your addition Yaprak to this list is intentional. I also like Yaprak and not mentioning now only but I mentioned this many times before. However, while İlkin had a great VNL season with 100 points and and showing a great all around OH performance in 2023 from the beginning in all legs up to semifinal in which she injured and missed the rest, Yaprak was not there. When İlkin played in WCH last year finals and the final match against Italy with a very strong and successful performance, Yaprak was at the bench.

At least I was expecting more from you to see the reality and your false assessment but instead of that, you still insist to show your biased and contradictional thoughts, from one side respecting the players contribution to her team but not for NT. It looks like, you started following volleyball, not so long ago. Yaprak is one of the strongest candidate of NT OH but don't mix everything into each other.

A group of idiots and trolls are now talking about İlkin's her injury, saying that her injury is fake. Unfortunately this is the point where volleyball came and I have more important things to do, raher than taking all these craziness serious.

I leave you all to believe, what you want to. Reality is there and I am done....

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Ilkin wasn't injured in the 2023 VNL. She was just playing a terrible semifinal against the USA, and Derya had to play. I even consider Derya to have contributed more than Ilkin to the National Team. I like Ilkin; she has a very beautiful story and is still young. However, Ilkin needs to demonstrate more ability in the national team.

Quote from volleySrb

When I saw long lost I knew it's a something about ilkin being the best

It seems that speaking "ill" of Ilkin is like stirring up a beehive. I greatly respect Ilkin's contribution to Galatasaray, but the same contribution doesn't exist for Turkiye NT. One could even argue that Hande, Meliha, and Yaprak have contributed more.

Final of the Equilibrium Cup. We started very well and finished terribly. Some of my thoughts:

Setters: Dilay had a very bad tournament, forcing many plays with Yaprak and forgetting about the middle blockers and defne. Buse didn't get many chances, but when she came in she couldn't do anything different.

Midfield Masters: Berca played excellently against Poland, but had a terrible match against Serbia. Her height seems to be a big problem many times and her serve needs to improve a lot. Karmen had a mediocre match against Italy, which I consider normal, as Italy is very good, and Karmen didn't play the slide attack. However, against Serbia, Karmen played the slide attack very well and was Turkey's best player. Deniz gave good performances given the lack of combination with Dilay and Turkey's very poor reception. Merve Attilier didn't get a chance. Honestly, I don't even understand why she was called up.

OPP:

Beren didn't get a chance to play full-time, but when she did, she didn't put on a great performance. I always say, and will continue to say: Beren doesn't have the physical strength, height, and explosiveness to be an opposite hitter. At most, she could be a wing spiker.

Defne had some good moments, but she missed many balls and was blocked several times. Defne is wasting a lot of time being a backup on her teams and hasn't been able to develop. She also seemed very shy. Maybe she'll be tested as a wing spiker and will be able to play better.

WS:

Saliha was by far the worst, and I also think she didn't deserve to be on the team.

Ilkin had difficulties in her attack and passing; I expected more from her.

I believe Yaprak was the best Turkish player in the tournament, but I find it impressive how much difficulty Yaprak has with passing, even being such a short player.

Ayse practically didn't get any chances.

Libero: Eylul gave a good performance, but I didn't find it anything spectacular.

Melis made some good saves, but I consider her very weak in reception.

Merve Izbilir only came on against Serbia and made every mistake she could.

It was an interesting game, although I think Turkey could have won 3-0.

Berca and Yaprak were the best.

Deniz played well too, she could have received more balls.

Saliha started well, but when the game got tough, she disappeared.

Eylul was consistent, making good saves at times.

Defne was the worst player, which was expected. She didn't even play for Aras Cargo the entire season. I don't know if it would be different with Beren. I think Santarelli will take Aylin to Brazil to get a backup for Vargas.

Does anyone know if Megi Bislimi will play for Türkiye or Kosovo? I noticed her name is on Kosovo's list for the European league. She appears to be an excellent WS and it's a crucial position for Türkiye's success.https://www-old.cev.eu/Competi…aspx?TeamID=14290&ID=1834

Quote from occansey

I expect the final roster for ECH to be mostly same as last WCH’s. So basically Vargas as only OPP and 5 OHs as Ebrar, İlkin, Hande, Yaprak and Derya. If Derya cannot recover from her operation on time, last OH spot could go to Saliha. The only other questionable spot could be the 4th MB after Eda, Zehra and Jack; with Aslı having a very mediocre season at Fener. If one of Berka, Karmen or Deniz can have solid VNL, they can snatch the last MB spot.

I'm wondering if Eda Erdem will return to be a backup for Jack, since I think Zehra will be the starter.

If Jack is the backup, I don't see the point in keeping her. Honestly, I prefer Alexia as Vargas' backup than using Jack as a backup.

I noticed that several players from the youth academy are playing in the youth championship. I was wondering if foreign players can play in this championship?

I was curious about Mina Vujović. Will she actually play for Serbia or has she become a Turkish citizen? I see that Vakifbank has many players from the Balkans.

Quote from lila

Aylin and Ezel are with their respective teams for the Juniors Championship in Tokat, i think they were just placeholder names to fill the squad. I believe they will play for u17 world championship

Aylin and Ezel cannot play in the WC U17. They were born in 2009. Only players born from 2010 onwards can play.

https://x.com/Temmzvolley/status/2056360569771331594

The Turkish team that will play in the Equilibrium Cup. The core of this team will probably also play in Week 1 of the VNL.

For a while I thought Aylin Uysalcan might get a chance, but I think Santarelli will try to find a backup for Vargas between Beren and Defne.

I even thought Defne would be playing as OH.

https://x.com/gibbybaris/statu…&t=bNkTO6fBU0qCBFhND_zEHQ

hmmm :assobiar::assobiar:

i cant undersant yasemin, beliz and zeynepsude out and merve atlier in.

I've seen several videos of Bianca Mumcular in the USA. Has she really been a big hit there?

https://youtu.be/6Gt3yh16wiE?si=1OVlvAZhLB2nE_Wl

Twitter is buzzing again with rumors of Markova possibly being naturalized for the Turkish national team. Could it be true this time?

https://x.com/starting6lineup/…/2052425269483311271?s=20

This website lists some players who are training: Eylül Akarçeşme, Merve İzbilir, Beren Yeşilırmak, Karmen Aksoy, İlkin Aydın, Ayşe Çürük, Merve Atlıer, Defne Başyolcu.

Of these names, Merve Atlıer surprises me. She didn't have a good season, and hasn't played well for about 2-3 years. I even think Zeynep Sude, Beliz, and Yasemin were MUCH better than Merve.

Ayşe also had a very bad season, but played somewhat well when she had the opportunity with the national team, except for the game against China.

Defne also practically didn't play this season; I heard she'll change positions and play as an OH player now. We don't know how she's training with the national team.

Beren could be a good alternative for backing up vargas, if jack is chosen.

https://x.com/gibbybaris/status/2052455257658249683?s=20

Confirming what was said previously, with the new rules, Vargas, Alexia, and Jack cannot play together at the same time. This will again be a headache for Santarelli. I believe the final result will be determined by the developments of MB and opposite (Vargas's reserve). I personally wouldn't want Vargas to play again without any backup, since Ebrar Karakurt should play full-time as an OH.

I have just one question. If a player becomes a naturalized citizen without playing any games for another national team, will she still count as a naturalized player even though she is not a naturalized player? For example: Boskovic, Antropova, Meliha, etc.

I don't understand why turkiye is the country that keeps the training regimen the most secretive every year. The training has started and we don't have many names of those who are there.

I like and admire Yaprak, however her height disadvantage is very noticeable in crucial moments and when blocking. The official information states that she is 1.82 meters tall, but it's very clear that she isn't that tall. She is clearly shorter than Gabi, for example. I even consider her only slightly taller than Simge. I believe Yaprak is around 173-5 cm tall.

Quote from serdar

She played very well in first half of sEason, and she had many games she scored in offense as well besides her amazing defense and solid reception. You are just talking about a few games she played very bad and generalize it to whole season🤦

Hande didn't have any great games this season, much less was she decisive in big matches. We can say that Ilkin, Yaprak, Ebrar, and even Derya were more decisive than Hande. Even Ana Cristina being Hande's backup is quite strange.

Quote from serdar

I think you are underestimating hande and ilkin. Ilkin can receive as good as any defensive oh around but she could still carry her team scoring wise so, to me she is the number one candidate for pairing with Ebrar although I like both yaprak and Derya. Also hande looks worse than she is because of her mistakes looks amateurish sometimes and she makes those mistakes at crucial moments so people have a bit distorted view on her. Purely from defense and reception point, she is very good

Underestimating Hande? I honestly can't understand how anyone still so strongly defends her presence on the national team. Hande hasn't played well at all this season, and we've hardly seen her play a game that didn't end in a negative score (-).

Quote from occansey

I’m really curious to see who’s gonna take the 2nd OH spot next to Ebrar this summer.

1) Hande - Started the season strong but slowed down a lot in the 2nd half.

2) Ilkin - Overall decent, but struggled a lot against top teams.

3) Yaprak - Has less offensive contribution compared to last year but makes less errors as well.

4) Derya - Almost non-existent in the 1st half of the season; now sees a bit court time.

5) Saliha - Good showing in terms of expectations, but was never really trusted by Santarelli so far.

I think Tugba and Meliha are out of the equation by now.

What are your thoughts?

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One of the few moments of reason I see on this site regarding Meliha and Tugba. Honestly, relying on them, and I'll add Hande, is a waste of time.

Hande has a name like a star, but she usually comes out negatively in almost all relevant games. She hasn't even been doing well in passing.

I love Eda, but honestly, I don't see the slightest need to use her this summer. It's very strange to me that Eda is playing so badly after playing very well in the WCH. Just as I hope not to see Simge, Asli, and Beyza.

I can't understand names like Buse Kayacan, Dicle, Sila, Beyza, Kubra??????

These are players who are nearing or have already passed 30 years old and haven't demonstrated playing at a high level.

Honestly, I'd rather see names from the youth category than these names.