Tomorrow Cup Quarter-Finals.
Do You expect any suprises?
Italy – Superlega Unipolsai 2016-2017
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Tomorrow Cup Quarter-Finals.
Do You expect any suprises?well anyone of the big 4 except Modena unless Sora gets really lucky.
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Tomorrow Cup Quarter-Finals.
Do You expect any suprises?From my team, this year, I expect everything... We can beat Kazan, and then lose to Sora
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And the weakness in Outside Hitter reserve hits Perugia. Piacenza won a comeback victory to eliminate Perugia from the Coppa Italia.
I keep on thinking how far away both Ivan and Aaron are from Berger or Dore's level and I feel how the competition is between them probably not getting anyone to challenge themselves to be better.
Perugia tried to remedy it but didn't bother to find a cure instead.Again, Perugia proves how badly they cannot build a winning team yet with enough mental toughness when everything goes not their way.
IMO, Perugia was much better last year as a team than today. As a whole the team just doesn't work.
It's ultimately a collection of stars and role players.
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The Men`s Cup they need to win only 1 game? I was thinking it was like the women`s, having to win 2 or Golden Set.
Well, why are you blaming it on Perugia`s bench? If Zaytsev and Russell are not playing well, blame it on them and not on other people. If you are trying to say Zaytsev and Russell were having a bad night, why can`t Berger have a bad night also?
Atanasijevic 29 points vs Hernandez 27
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The Men`s Cup they need to win only 1 game? I was thinking it was like the women`s, having to win 2 or Golden Set.
Well, why are you blaming it on Perugia`s bench? If Zaytsev and Russell are not playing well, blame it on them and not on other people. If you are trying to say Zaytsev and Russell were having a bad night, why can`t Berger have a bad night also?
Atanasijevic 29 points vs Hernandez 27
Because compared to other top teams, Perugia's bench is weak! And no I am blaming it on the managers who build a team with a weak bench if not useable not on the players. For a top team, they can't rest their players without putting Ivan back to an opposite. Anyone who thinks it's not going to catch up eventually is joking themselves.
Heck in order to give Berger playing time, they have to rest Atanasijevic to put him to a weird role without moving Ivan out to the opposite. That's how badly built their team was.
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No,Perugia lost because Zaytsev was anything but a star. Also Russell can't shine in this conditions
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Perugia loses because, as I said many times, Zaystev as OH is a totally NORMAL player, from area 4 his spike is nothing special. While Russell is not a top player yet. Still very incosistent and discontinuous
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After Perugia's loss
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And the weakness in Outside Hitter reserve hits Perugia
Perugia's bench is weak!
Not much weaker than Modena bench, imho. Especially considering the third OH and the opposite.In case – as scarpetta and Mamdani pointed out (probably more harshly than I would have :P) – we have to compare the titular OHs: Perugia doesn't have neither an Engapeth nor a Juantorena...
But after all Trento doesn't have them eitherPs I didn't watch many matches of Vibo, but every time I'm impressed by their defense! Good job guys in that area
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After Perugia's loss
Catia Pedrini answered to tell him to remove the post (with an angry emoticon).
For the record, he didn't -
Catia Pedrini answered to tell him to remove the post (with an angry emoticon).
For the record, he didn't
As we have seen before,wait a response from not Zaytsev but his 'I'm the manager, my idol is Wanda' wife.
BTW; this is an unacceptable,jerky post from Ngapeth -
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And the weakness in Outside Hitter reserve hits Perugia
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Perugia's bench is weak!
Not much weaker than Modena bench, imho. Especially considering the third OH and the opposite.
In case – as scarpetta and Mamdani pointed out (probably more harshly than I would have ) – we have to compare the titular OHs: Perugia doesn't have neither an Engapeth nor a Juantorena...
But after all Trento doesn't have them either
Ps I didn't watch many matches of Vibo, but every time I'm impressed by their defense! Good job guys in that area
Perugia loses because, as I said many times, Zaystev as OH is a totally NORMAL player, from area 4 his spike is nothing special. While Russell is not a top player yet. Still very incosistent and discontinuous
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Not much weaker than Modena bench, imho. Especially considering the third OH and the opposite.In case – as scarpetta and Mamdani pointed out (probably more harshly than I would have :P) – we have to compare the titular OHs: Perugia doesn't have neither an Engapeth nor a Juantorena...
But after all Trento doesn't have them eitherPs I didn't watch many matches of Vibo, but every time I'm impressed by their defense! Good job guys in that area
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Not much weaker than Modena bench, imho. Especially considering the third OH and the opposite.In case – as scarpetta and Mamdani pointed out (probably more harshly than I would have :P) – we have to compare the titular OHs: Perugia doesn't have neither an Engapeth nor a Juantorena...
But after all Trento doesn't have them eitherPs I didn't watch many matches of Vibo, but every time I'm impressed by their defense! Good job guys in that area
Oh please. Ngapeth and Juantorena also have bad days/weeks..it's just Zaytsev and Russell pick one of the worse days to have a mediocre kinda match in a quarterfinal. I mean atleast Modema and Lube have Cook or Cebulj.
And the problem of the match is simply because De Cecco was making too many bad choices while his left sides are not hitting their averages enough in the offense.and that brings us the bench of Perugia.
The titulars OHs are good enough to start in other clubs but you can't have them perfect all the time. It's incredibly important to be on top of your shape and a club as ambitious as perugia,it's vital to have someone who can pick up the pieces. De Cecco can't even trust Berger or Dore to hit out of system. What can you do if their best offensive OHs are their starters? Both their back up arent as good defensively yet to make a case for that in order to usurp their positions.attleast Fromm was a good piece last season. Kaliberda/Russell/Fromm was good enough to win championships last season. Imagine if they got Podrascanin? After those two left... It's back to square zero for Perugia. If they kept Kaliberda or Fromm atleast there's still familiarity. It seems to me Perugia drastically change how the team work and it's costing them championship wins.
Maybe it's the lack of chemistry or De Cecco playing bad but I would say Perugia didn't do enough in building a team that forges competition within a club. I mean Zaytsev and Russell ae basically shoe ins as starters as long as they are healthy.
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I told it in october Perugia would be once again a beautiful loser team. I was right when I stopped watching our games.
Reasons:
-De Cecco ia a marvelous player, but not a winner; a silver medal specialist a would say.
-Russell can't have a bad day, since he's the only one to go when it matters.
-We hired the best italian opposite to play another position, which he has always been average at best.
-Atanasijevic will never be a factor when score comes to 20+ in very important matches.
-We gave up a bad libero, to hire a worse one; but at least there's Tosi.Podrascanin is the only real improvement of the team than last season.
I really miss Kaliberda. He was my favourite player last season.
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-Russell can't have a bad day, since he's the only one to go when it matters.Perugia last season played without Russell part of the season...And Perugia still won without him. He missed a few matches this season and Perguia won without him, and he played bad a few games this season and Perugia still won.
And we all know, Russell is probably the last player you want to go when it matters.
-Atanasijevic will never be a factor when score comes to 20+ in very important matches.
Perguia made to the finals last season mostly thanks to Atanasijevic, if Perugia did not had him, I dont think they would even made to the semis.
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Atanasijevic is just as useless in key matches as your last comment.
You talk about finals. I talk about titles. That's the difference. I had to watch this guy in my team since 2013. I had expectations, but he has been all along a disappointment when it really mattered. He can't lead the team anywhere. He's not a leader.
He came to Belchatow when the club won 7 polish titles in a row. Not only they lost the first final against Resovia, but the following season the got eliminated in the QFs.
Or do we need to talk about Serbia winning its first World League title without him.You don't like Russell. I get it. It's your problem, not mine. But you should watch some match from last season, when the team was all about Russell in the key moments (play-off semifinals and so on), because the opposite couldn't kill a single ball. And be honest with who reads your posts or at least with yourself, instead of writing nosenses. It's not such a big deal.
Once again my club just waisted money. I telling this since the beginning and the last elimination proved it. We are even weaker than last season.
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Shame, the no sense person here is you, I don't have anything against Russell, and neither I love Atanasejvic.
But just like I called somebody out the other day when they said Lise VanHecke was playing terrible. there's a lot of people that don't watch the games and they depend on the posts to find out what's going on! So when you come here and try to say Atanasejevic is terrible and Russell the best, it is my job to call you out and show that you are talking shit.
You have the right to say whatever you want and so do I.
( U did this all season long last season when u would trash Atanasejevic everyday) this comes across as u have a obsseion with him.
One thing is a "opinion" and one thing it is a "fact". You talking about Atanasejevic is your "opinion", and me talking about Atanasejevic it is the "facts"
Either way ....just chill girl
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Ngapeth and Juantorena also have bad days/weeks..it's just Zaytsev and Russell pick one of the worse days to have a mediocre kinda match in a quarterfinal. I mean atleast Modema and Lube have Cook or Cebulj.
Of course Osmany and especially Ngapeth have bad days, I've never wrote that they are perfect players!
Still, I do believe that overall they are better players than OH-Zaytsev. Of course in a single match it's absolutely possible that Ivan outplays them, because he has the potential to, but on the long run I think the first two are quite better.Having saying that, I specify that I don't agree with shame about Ivan being just an 'average' OH: for me he is still a (very?) good player, just not a top international one, as imho he is as opposite. And I specify that for me his problem as OH it's always been the attack, not the reception (he does receive quite better than several other players considered 'top OHs', for example Kaizisky).
About Cook, honestly I don't think he is better than Berger... But may be Massari is better than Della Lunga (hard to say for me, I haven't watch them playing very much).
About Lube bench OHs, I didn't mention them not because I forgot to do that, but because the 'bench OHs problem' that we were speaking about doesn't affect them at all, since the 4 OHs all together are clearly the best 'OH-squad' of the whole Superlega, especially now that Kovar is coming back.
I mentioned Juantorena not to imply that he doesn't have a proper bench, but to point out that imho Perugia is missing a top international OH like him (or Ngapeth).BTW, my point in the previous post was: Perugia and Modena both doesn't have a proper bench when you come to OHs and especially opposites, so it's crucial that the titular OHs/opp play at their best.
And Ngapeth imho is better than OH-Zaytsev best, may be excluding the serve (that isn't affected by the position you're playing).Of course, not having a top international OH doesn't mean you can't win, as having him doesn't mean you will
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Redemption by Perugia against the worst Trento of the season maybe
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I thought Trento would have fared better with Nelli than Stokr.
Trento badly needs a terminating opposite or maybe a terminating OH. Lanza is kinda up and down while Stokr is getting older.
It's such a shame really. De Cecco was playing terribly but they managed to play even worse than that. Giannelli had to go to give ridiculous sets to the middles because his hitters can't kill with single blocks.