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Great throwbacks! Added to the offline collections 😆 👌🏻

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China had Zhu Ting and South Korea had KYK. These two players had a great impact on their respective teams. It is appropriate to call them legends. Saw the Fivb Instagram calling Kurakut as a legend. I don’t think she deserves to be called a legend - not yet too early. Besides, she hasn’t been the catalyst to Turkey NT decisive victories.

It's the inclusion of the ex-Cuban Melissa Vargas that made the Turkish Team at its current position. Without Vargas, the Turkish team will simply be a strong, respectable team but not on the top like it's now! Think that Guidetti would have cursed that he didn't have Vargas during all his years with TUR NT for all the coveted championships! It's a futile attempt to deny such reality!

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for those of you who don't read the rest of the forum

Zhu is back with Scandicci

Ding Xia signed with a Polish club (Chemik Police) next season.

Looking back at post the Tokyo Olympics cycle, Li Yingying is almost the only dependable player in the Chinese women's volleyball team's main attack position, because Zhang Changning has practically retired (she has not been in volleyball training for about 18 months), while Zhu Ting is still healing her injury and playing for an Italian club (her prospect for returning to the NT is not clear at the moment). In the main attacking position, Li Yingying became the absolute core, and her attacking partner at present is Wang Yunlu, and Wang Yunlu's performance was not ideal, which aroused dissatisfaction among fans, and there were even calls for Wang Yunlu to be replaced.

In fact, based on the current lineup of the Chinese women's volleyball team, just the return of Zhu Ting is enough to make it easy for the team to win in the Asian Continent, and even have the ability to compete for one among the top four positions globally. However, without Zhu Ting, the current level of the Chinese women's volleyball team can only be considered as one of the top eight teams in the world, making it difficult to compete for the championships in the World level. Therefore, Wang Yunlu has always been considered a weakness of the team, and opponents often use this weakness to attack, which has become a loophole in the overall strength of the team. If this issue cannot be resolved in a timely manner, it will become difficult for the team to achieve ideal results in the world level competitions.

However, at the upcoming Olympic qualifiers and the Hangzhou Asian Games, the head coach Cai Bin brought in a new blood into the first team, Wu Mengjie. This young main attacking player born in 2002 has a height of 1.92 meters and the world-class comprehensive strength. She may most likely partner with Li Yingying to replace Wang Yunlu and form a golden combination of the main attacking lines of the team, which is expected to help the team achieve ideal results in the upcoming two big events. This adjustment brings new hope to the team after the Tokyo OG's fiasco and the subsequent retirements and semi-retirements of several key players.

In short, the Chinese women's volleyball team has introduced new forces in preparation for the Hangzhou Asian Games and Olympic qualification matches, hoping to make up for the shortcomings in the offensive end. The addition of Wu Mengjie has made the team more solid in their main attacking position, adding confidence to future competitions. The Hangzhou Asian Games and Olympic qualifiers will become the beginning of a new journey for the team, and also the starting point for the team to return to its top competitive form! (A volleyball observer and writer in Zhejiang, via Baidu Sports, 2023-09-13)

Wondered why ZT has not joined the 🇨🇳🏐NT. She must have some disagreement with the way the practices and physical trainings maybe the length of time, compensation, etc.

She had given up a chunk of earnings (losing money) when she joined and went back to play in CVL.. The sacrifices she endured did not pay off (Tokyo Olympics result was disappointing). Time is not on her side, she needs to recoup her loss - play in club that offer the most money to her. Maybe it is more relax and fun to play in European leagues. She wasn’t as popular as ZCN in 🇨🇳 market endorsements knowing that the 🇨🇳🏐 WNT impressive results were the greater part was her contribution. ZCN was riding high on the NT success instead of her. Saw some 🇨🇳 advertisements using the NT and ZT face was not in them. In these cases, NT got paid and perhaps the player photos who were in the ad got extra dough. She was not treated fairly.

Chinese women's volleyball team changes formations, Cai Bin's team welcomes new players, and Li Yingying gets a strong helping hand

Recently many fans of the Chinese women's volleyball team have seen the official roster announcement for the Olympic Qualification Tournament and the Hangzhou Asian Games. Cai Bin attaches great importance to these two competitions held in China, and for the Chinese women's volleyball team, they definitely want to win the first-chance tickets to the Paris Olympics and defend the championship of the Hangzhou Asian Games. Since winning the silver medal in the 2023 VNL, the Chinese women's volleyball team has not given the players a break. Cai Bin brought the team to Beilun training base, Zhejiang for preparation, just to achieve good results and live up to the expectations of fans.

In order to play well in the OQT and the Hangzhou Asian Games, the Chinese women's volleyball team underwent a transformation, with some players leaving. At the same time, Cai Bin's team welcomed new players. The biggest difference from the VNL lineup is the very first-time inclusion of Wu Mengjie into the main attacking position of the first team and the return of the experienced Ding Xia as the setter of the team (the second setter position). Wu Mengjie is dubbed as 'Little Zhu Ting', with excellent height and arm span. Her offensive ability is excellent, and she can play super offensive in the face of tall European and American players. Now that Cai Bin has called Wu Mengjie into the team, it can be said that in terms of attacking, it can improve the team's attacking effectiveness, as well as assisting blocking.

For Li Yingying, she gets a good helper because Wang Yunlu and others have limited offensive skills, especially when facing the European and American players with excellent height and arm span. Wang Yunlu is prone to getting stuck in the round. Now, Cai Bin has called Wu Mengjie into the team. When the team attacks at the front row position, Wu Mengjie's capability is clearly better than Wang Yunlu. Many fans expect Wu Mengjie to play her part in the national team's main lineup and become a good partner for Li Yingying, because in the absence of Zhu Ting in these two upcoming major events, it is necessary for Li Yingying and others to come forward and solve the shortcoming.

Everyone saw recently that Zhu Ting appeared in Beilun, reporting her injury situation to the coaching staff and also seeing her teammates. Later, Zhu Ting posted on social media that she would go to Spain for injury recovery therapy. After a brief adjustment in Spain, Zhu Ting went directly to play for the Italian Serie A team. Recently, Zhu Ting has flown to Italian team Scandicci, which can be said to have started the preparation work for the new season. On the other side, Scandicci's official platform has released a message stating that "the Queen is back".

Seeing Zhu Ting returning to the team and not playing in the NT yet playing in the Serie A club, some fans posted many kinds of negative comments and rumors, including Zhu's self-interest chasing for money. In fact, it is not inappropriate for Zhu Ting not to compete with the NT, because in the upcoming OQT, as long as the Chinese team achieves the top two results in the group, the team will earn the direct ticket to the Paris Olympics. And even if the Chinese team miserably fails to seize the opportunity in the OQT, the team can still enter the Paris Olympics through its world rankings.

At the upcoming Hangzhou Asian Games, in the absence of the huge upset, the probability of the Chinese women's volleyball team in defending the championship is also very high. Zhu Ting reported her physical condition to the national team before the previous Women's Volleyball World Championship, the upcoming OQT, and the Hangzhou Asian Games. The facts that Zhu Ting did not play with the NT, I believe the CVA must have carefully considered it. Now that Zhu Ting does not play with the NT, it may be a good thing, giving other players the opportunity to exercise, to fill up her position. After all, Zhu Ting is also growing older, one year older than Zhang Changning, the Chinese women's volleyball team can no longer just rely on Zhu Ting, a proper regeneration must be well prepared.

In the upcoming Olympic Qualification Tournament and the Hangzhou Asian Games, I hope that Li Yingying and Wu Mengjie can both show their full shines and lead the team to achieve good results. When Zhu Ting returns to participate in the Olympics next year (the volleyball events in the Paris Olympics will take place between the 27 July and 11 August 2024), it must be said that the Chinese women's volleyball team is still quite competitive for the podium spots. Finally, many folks still say that Zhang Changning is still recuperating her injury and eventually will return to the NT. What do you think of this? (A volleyball observer and writer in Henan, via NetEase Sports, 2023-09-13)

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Wondered why ZT has not joined the 🇨🇳🏐NT. She must have some disagreement with the way the practices and physical trainings maybe the length of time, compensation, etc.

She had given up a chunk of earnings (losing money) when she joined and went back to play in CVL.. The sacrifices she endured did not pay off (Tokyo Olympics result was disappointing). Time is not on her side, she needs to recoup her loss - play in club that offer the most money to her. Maybe it is more relax and fun to play in European leagues. She wasn’t as popular as ZCN in 🇨🇳 market endorsements knowing that the 🇨🇳🏐 WNT impressive results were the greater part was her contribution. ZCN was riding high on the NT success instead of her. Saw some 🇨🇳 advertisements using the NT and ZT face was not in them. In these cases, NT got paid and perhaps the player photos who were in the ad got extra dough. She was not treated fairly.

All these talks are just pure fandom's wild speculations. When Zhu Ting's return to the NT next year for the Paris OG, it will put off all the wild thoughts even the sinister lines.

The core part is I believe that Zhu got CVA full support for what she's doing. There are/were some delicate situations involving the timing of her injury and recuperation, the playing duration and burden, the utmost priority for the CVA whereas the Zhu's role is truly needed (which is not really at this very moment as outlined by the immediate article above), as well as Zhu's own legitimate interest.

Back to the short answer, just wait patiently until next year, if Zhu backs to the NT, it's obvious that all negativities are purely speculative. But if Zhu remains playing in the club but not the NT, then all those lines may have some truth.

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Chinese women's volleyball team changes formations, Cai Bin's team welcomes new players, and Li Yingying gets a strong helping hand

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WMJ replacing WYL ? I will believe it only when I see it in the OQs. Iirc, under CB, WYL has always been in the starting lineup... with WYL there are up and down moments, more down than up. CB is slow in replacing WYL when things aren’t going right. For instance, when the team trails 8 or 10 points he’ll send Wang Yizhu in (VNL 2022) or Zhong Hui (VNL 2023) ... and when the team has fallen that much behind there is “scoreboard pressure” on the incoming player. WYL has been listed as having a touch height of 312cm. I find that hard to believe. One of the shocking results in this year’s VNL was a five set loss to DR, where their left handed OP Gonzalez scored more than 30 points. And who is standing across the net from her ? and btw DR is in the same OQ pool as us, I believe. WYL does have some strong points, she can serve well under pressure, so why not just let her do that ? if CB insist on keeping her in the team

Correct. ZT is represented by a foreign sport agent who oversees her contracts i.e. employment, endorsements and fee appearances, etc. NT successes were riding heavily in ZT’s coattails. Companies that sponsored the NT knew that JLP and ZT were the major forces of the NT victories. There is a fee to use ZT name/ images and most probably, NT wanted to keep the whole payment and did not want to pay certain percentage to ZT. Not properly and fairly acknowledging ZT contribution was insulting. NT could negotiate with the companies that ZT name / images should be included and additional cost for the endorsements. If the NT endorsed products without the players then that is ok, but using other players images / name without ZT is not ok. ZT’s agent is open for negotiations for sure in this issue.

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Correct. ZT is represented by a foreign sport agent who oversees her contracts i.e. employment, endorsements and fee appearances, etc. NT successes were riding heavily in ZT’s coattails. Companies that sponsored the NT knew that JLP and ZT were the major forces of the NT victories. There is a fee to use ZT name/ images and most probably, NT wanted to keep the whole payment and did not want to pay certain percentage to ZT. Not properly and fairly acknowledging ZT contribution was insulting. NT could negotiate with the companies that ZT name / images should be included and additional cost for the endorsements. If the NT endorsed products without the players then that is ok, but using other players images / name without ZT is not ok. ZT’s agent is open for negotiations for sure in this issue.

You make repeated bold accusations on all these heavy negative things... do you have any valid source / news link to prop your words? 🤔🤔

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I miss the days when we can limit Turkey to 48 points in 3 sets

Forget it! Now the Turkiye's team is suddenly becoming quite formidable, even more powerful than the familiar giants such as SRB, ITA, BRA, USA... with the inclusion of Melissa Vargas! Her joining to the TUR team brings even more impact than Egonu joined the ITA team. Vargas to the TUR team is likened Boskovic to the SRB squad! For the Paris OG, I predict TUR and SRB are the strongest contenders for the top spot!

Looking forward to the Chinese women's volleyball team to make a strong comeback and play with its strongest lineup

Finally, amid much anticipation, the Chinese women's volleyball team is ready and is about to enter the Olympic Qualification Tournament! This tournament is of great significance to the Chinese women's volleyball team. It is not only related to the allocated spot for the next year's Paris Olympics, but also has the impact of an unprecedented failure in the Tokyo Olympics. Therefore, even if it is just an early campaign for the Paris Olympics, Chinese volleyball fans are holding their breath. Hopefully Cai Bin can lead the team to perform well and "avoid shame".

So, what did the Chinese women's volleyball team experience at the Tokyo Olympics? It should be noted that the hosting of the Tokyo Olympics was very complicated. A couple of years ago, because the world was greatly affected by the epidemic, various major competitions were adjusted and postponed. Even the quadrennial Olympics had to be postponed by one year. In this way, many preparation plans were also greatly affected. With most of the players performing unsatisfactory, the team had three losses in five matches, only achieved the 9th place, and missed the Olympic quarterfinals.

Many players shed tears at the scene. Whether it was the coach Lang Ping or the athletes, this was their last Olympic Games. The goal was to defend the championship title, but the result was a catastrophic failure, the team didn't even make it to the knocked-out stage, the quarterfinals. This sense of disparity also put the Chinese women's volleyball team on the pillar of shame for a period of time. Even the team went home early, and ZCN was scolded profusely for accepting some commercial deal. Chinese volleyball fans blamed the failure on the women's volleyball team's acceptance of various commercial activities, and coach Lang Ping also quietly left the team. After that, a large number of veteran players retired, and some players recuperated and left the team... The team entered a trough situation, and it was not until this year that the team started to recover.

So this time at the Paris Olympics, whether it's the Chinese Volleyball Association or the women's volleyball players who have held their breath, they are all aiming for higher goals. Even if winning the championship is too far away for the team at present, the bold courage to fight and to have such thought is already a part of the well-known spirit of the Chinese women's volleyball team. This Olympic qualifying round is the prelude, this is an opportunity for the team to rebound further to shed its shame and establish a new height! (A sport observer and writer from Hebei, via Baidu Sports, 2023-09-15)

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You make repeated bold accusations on all these heavy negative things... do you have any valid source / news link to prop your words? 🤔🤔

I used words probably, perhaps and maybe. it is innuendo not accusation. Never seen advertisements where the club, organization, etc omits its important/ star member/ player. Say Chicago Bulls during M. Jordan days, he was the star in the club’s ad even on NBA ad. I find it odd and disrespectful for lack of acknowledgement.

Guys, it's a big day for volleyball, let's all watch the live action and talk about the matches later, and there's also badminton (Hong Kong Open) and Weightlifting... China lifting most of the gold there

The Asian games opening is just a few days away. There was a familiar face in the torch relay... Zhou Suhong a player in our team which won gold in Athens2004.

https://x.com/19thAGofficial/status/1700321685524873294?s=20

An unconvincing win, but a win nonetheless... the main attackers were shaky today but WYY saved the day... the opponent making so many errors also helped. Need to do much better against Canada, NL , Dom, Czechia and Serbia. Maybe give WuMJ a chance to play tomorrow.. see if position 4 can be strengthened