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Bartek

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Sunday, December 11th 2016, 9:09pm

Men's World Grand Champions Cup 2017

Prediction Game:


Gold Medals - 14

Silver Medals - 12

Bronze Medals - 9


Overall: 35


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Sunday, December 11th 2016, 10:44pm

I have to admit that i had to look up, what kind of a tournament this actually is ?(

Apparantly it has some kind of tradition but somehow i didn't pay attention to the 2013 edition. Historically, do the teams/federations take this seriously and send their best possible teams?

Generally speaking and as a big friend of club volleyball, i don't think the world needs another NT tournament directly in front of the club season. There is World League, WCH qualification and continental championships and i think this should be enough.....
never mess with your setter......

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Sunday, December 11th 2016, 10:53pm

Sorry, but if you have not heard of the Grand Champions Cup, I dont think u are a really volleyball fan. OLOLOLO... unless u r really young.

Started in 1993 ...and yes teams do send their best players. It is the first tournament after the GP and WL to start the new Olympic Cycle.

But it does not give points to the World Ranking, but it does have Prize Money.

here`s the link with the rosters from 2013, just so you can see, all the teams had their full roster.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_FIVB_…ions_Cup_squads

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_FIVB_…ions_Cup_squads

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1993 - Regla Bell
1997 - Aratamova
2001 - Yang Hao - Ivan Milijkovic
2005 - Sheila Castro - Andre Nascimento
2009 - Gioli - Robertland Simon
2013 - Fabiana Claudino - Muserskyi

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Monday, December 12th 2016, 12:21am

Sorry, but if you have not heard of the Grand Champions Cup, I dont think u are a really volleyball fan. OLOLOLO... unless u r really young.
"Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" :teach:

There is very little coverage in german media on volleyball tournaments, even if german teams are participating. So you can imagine that the coverage or even the mention on tournaments with no german participation equals zero. i referred to 2013 as i was already enlisted here but do not remember any discussions. A quick forum search didn't deliver results for the men's tournament as well. So i was asking and luckily, i can always rely on knowledgable, humble and friendly guys like you :wavy: .
Thank you for the links :thumbup:

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As a little fatherly advice: Your teletubbyish "OLOLOLO" stuff comes along quite weird. Just sayin'......
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Monday, December 12th 2016, 12:42am

Oh Ok,but I just use LOLOLOL when Im joking about something, like when I said u r probably have not heard of the WGCC based on your age, Im not being sarcastic, just funny. :thumbsup:

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Monday, December 12th 2016, 2:47am

Sorry, but if you have not heard of the Grand Champions Cup, I dont think u are a really volleyball fan. OLOLOLO... unless u r really young.

Started in 1993 ...and yes teams do send their best players. It is the first tournament after the GP and WL to start the new Olympic Cycle.


I was studying as an exchange student at Waseda University in Tokyo at the time and watched the Brazil-Italy, Cuba-USA and a little bit of the South Korea-Japan game in person during the Tokyo weekend matches.

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Monday, December 12th 2016, 6:44am

Vow that is so cool... I'm the most crazy volleyball fan ever :gone: but I have never ever seen a professional game in person, only NCAA :wacko:

I bought the tickets for the Grand Prix final Round in Omaha, but something happened and I was not able to make it ;(

Hopefully I will watch the GP and or WL in 2018 hopefully in they play in the US.

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Monday, December 12th 2016, 2:12pm

There is very little coverage in german media on volleyball tournaments, even if german teams are participating. So you can imagine that the coverage or even the mention on tournaments with no german participation equals zero. i referred to 2013 as i was already enlisted here but do not remember any discussions. A quick forum search didn't deliver results for the men's tournament as well.
You are right, a forum search delivers nothing, I don't know why. But if you go to the archive section and enter the threads for both years 2013 and 2009, you will find the right threads :) Here they are:

2013 WGCC
2009 WGCC

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Monday, December 12th 2016, 3:18pm

There is very little coverage in german media on volleyball tournaments, even if german teams are participating. So you can imagine that the coverage or even the mention on tournaments with no german participation equals zero. i referred to 2013 as i was already enlisted here but do not remember any discussions. A quick forum search didn't deliver results for the men's tournament as well.
You are right, a forum search delivers nothing, I don't know why. But if you go to the archive section and enter the threads for both years 2013 and 2009, you will find the right threads :) Here they are:

2013 WGCC
2009 WGCC

thanks. as i see, i even made some posts in the 2013 thread :lol:

But still i think that there is actually no need for this tournament. Players should be at their clubs and make a reasonable preparation for the club season.....
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Monday, December 12th 2016, 5:06pm

Two words:

-Japan

-$$$

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Wednesday, March 29th 2017, 11:05am

2017 Men's World Grand Champions Cup

The 7th edition of the world's most useless international tournament will take place in Japan, as usual, in the period 12 - 17 September. The list of participants is almost the same as in 2013, even the wild card recipient is identical, this time the reigning European champions France replace Russia.

Japan Host Country
Brazil South America
United States NORCECA
France CEV
Iran ASIA
Italy Wild Card

Venues

Nagoya and Osaka

Full schedule here.

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Wednesday, March 29th 2017, 1:30pm

Such topic exists.
Prediction Game:


Gold Medals - 14

Silver Medals - 12

Bronze Medals - 9


Overall: 35


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Sunday, September 10th 2017, 6:32pm

Any lineups? :D

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Sunday, September 10th 2017, 8:58pm

Italy with the same of the ECh:
Giannelli-Spirito
Lanza-Antonov-Randazzo-Botto
Buti-Mazzone-Ricci-Piano
Vettori-Sabbi
Colaci-Balaso

About the others, Ngapeth won't be there (he is/will soon be in Modena to asset his condition).

Plus, there are players waited in the Italian League that hasn't arrived yet (nor are mentioned to arrive soon, unlike other players like Kovacevic, for example), so I guess they will all be there: Bruno, Grebennikov, Christenson, both Shojis, Russell, Sander, Holt, Le Goff, Clevenot, Jaeschke, I think also Manavi...
Eder is in Trento so he won't play with Brazil for sure.

I also read that due to the commitment with the NTs, Matt Anderson (Zenit Kazan) and Ryley Barnes (Ural Ufa) will skip the first 5 matches of the Russia League (that starts today), while Le Roux (Dinamo Mosca) only the first 2.

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Sunday, September 10th 2017, 9:19pm

Brazil is the favorite to win this. France is not playing like they did in the WL and without Negpeth, Italy is playing bad and without Zaytsev, and USA just lost 4x for Brazil. Iran is not playing well either and Japan does not even count. But I want to see someone upsetting Brazil.

Brazil.

S - Bruno, Raphael
OP - Wallace, Renan
OH - Lucarelli, Mauricio Borges, Rodriguingo, Douglas
MB - Lucas, Mauricio Souza, Otavio, Isac
L - Thales, Thiago Brendle.

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Monday, September 11th 2017, 10:16am

France

S: Toniutti, Brizard
OH's: Clevenot, Lyneel, Rossard
OPP's: Boyer, Patry
MB's: Le Goff, Chinenyeze, Bultor
L: Grebennikov, Tillie
Shiva :heart:

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Monday, September 11th 2017, 10:39am

France should take only 7players because the sub are useless.

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Monday, September 11th 2017, 2:17pm

France

S: Toniutti, Brizard
OH's: Clevenot, Lyneel, Rossard
OPP's: Boyer, Patry
MB's: Le Goff, Chinenyeze, Bultor
L: Grebennikov, Tillie


Two players less!
I can understand the missing OH because the lack of Ngapeth was a recent surprise (even if they could have put Tillie as OH and call the second libero of the WL...)
But what about Le Roux? He isn't with Dinamo but neither with the NT?



Brazil is the favorite to win this. France is not playing like they did in the WL and without Negpeth, Italy is playing bad and without Zaytsev, and USA just lost 4x for Brazil. Iran is not playing well either and Japan does not even count. But I want to see someone upsetting Brazil.

I overall agree, at the moment I see Brazil and then USA as the favorite.
Still, I really really hope France and Italy will perform better than in the ECh, whatever the results will be.
After all the match Italy-Brazil (won by Brazil) in the WL was probably the best we played the whole summer :lol: :lol:
I think France and may be also Italy have in them the potential to beat the other teams (in the right circumstances), but at the moment I think they also have the 'potential' to lose vs Japan :wacko:


Anyway, from a strictly technical point of view we have a lot of good looking players in this tournament :rose: :heart: :rolll:
It's such a pity the timetable in Italy is terrible, I think I will be able to watch only one Italian match live ;(

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Monday, September 11th 2017, 2:26pm

JPN has improved a lot this year. they might surprise someone at this cup. and they're playing at home.

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Monday, September 11th 2017, 2:27pm

France

S: Toniutti, Brizard
OH's: Clevenot, Lyneel, Rossard
OPP's: Boyer, Patry
MB's: Le Goff, Chinenyeze, Bultor
L: Grebennikov, Tillie
If French men's NT only give the roster of 12 players, should Tillie return OH?
After the tournament, Will Lyneel go to Shanghai and Tillie go to Beijing?
These are only my guess.
My favourite roster of Chinese
male NT:
S - Li Run-ming, Zhan Guo-jun
OP - Dai Qing-yao, Jiang Chuan
OH - Ji Dao-shuai, Xia Run-tao, Liu Li-bin, Zhang Chen
MB - Zhang Zhe-jia, Chen Long-hai, Geng Xin
L - Ren Qi

female NT:
S - Ding Xia, Yao Di
OP - Gong Xiang-yu, Zhang Chang-ning
OH - Hui Ruo-qi, Zhu Ting, Liu Xiao-tong, Li Jing
MB - Yuan Xin-yue, Yan Ni, Xu Yun-li
L - Lin Li

My avatar is Jiang Chuan. I hope more persons love him.