Cheating is okay, and approved by the VBL. That's how I see today's verdict
Germany - VBL 1. Bundesliga 2023/24
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Cheating is okay, and approved by the VBL. That's how I see today's verdict
Well what would have been a fair verdict in your opinion? I think the fact that the penalty doesn't change the ranking is pure coindicence, in other constellations -6 points could have made a difference between 4th and 8th place...
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Well what would have been a fair verdict in your opinion? I think the fact that the penalty doesn't change the ranking is pure coindicence, in other constellations -6 points could have made a difference between 4th and 8th place...
The VBL knew that this "punishment" would have no impact on the clubs. Nobody has any disadvantage from these clubs now.
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Exclusion from the Supercup, cup or international competitions as well as the withdrawal of home rights!
There would have been options.
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Exclusion from the Supercup, cup or international competitions as well as the withdrawal of home rights!
There would have been options.
I don't see how either of these options would be more painful than the current ones. Withdrawal of home rights would mean less money would mean more problems would mean a league with only six teams left in two years. Would that be any better?
I don't want to defend any of the punished teams, just to be clear, but IMO the problem is a systematic one and for now the survival of a competitive league is more important than hard penalties IMO...
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I don't see how either of these options would be more painful than the current ones. Withdrawal of home rights would mean less money would mean more problems would mean a league with only six teams left in two years. Would that be any better?
I don't want to defend any of the punished teams, just to be clear, but IMO the problem is a systematic one and for now the survival of a competitive league is more important than hard penalties IMO...
Then the VBL should say that straight away: "We cannot punish the clubs because then we will no longer have a Bundesliga in Germany"
But please no alibi punishments
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Playing against Potsdam without Rivers can almost be interpreted as arrogance
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Playing against Potsdam without Rivers can almost be interpreted as arrogance
I guess the two matches per week are too heavy on her? I can understand why they would prioritise CL play-off over this match. Just tuned in at 20-20 though, looks like a close battle?
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Potsdam is playing well, no question about it. But Stuttgart is also playing really badly. As if the Stuttgart team had forgotten how to play volleyball. Nothing is working today. It's hard to believe that 48 hours ago Stuttgart won 3-0 against Potsdam.
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Huge advantage for Schwerin now to grab the 1st place. Dresden with only 9 players today. Frohling, Straube still out with injury and Lemmens, Berger out due to infections.
So it should be a clear win for Schwerin.
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Potsdam looked like they were having so much fun on court, fighting as a team for a well-deserved win Guncheva's setting is really fun to watch!
So I was reading on the VBL website what's next, can anyone confirm?
- After this round, 1-5 and 6-9 are playing in another pool to make a classification for 1-9. Then there are still QFs/SFs with 8? (I thought perhaps they would skip the QFs and make them into a "Champion-group" and "Relegation-group", where 1-5 would then deliver the semi-finalists)
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Potsdam looked like they were having so much fun on court, fighting as a team for a well-deserved win Guncheva's setting is really fun to watch!
So I was reading on the VBL website what's next, can anyone confirm?
- After this round, 1-5 and 6-9 are playing in another pool to make a classification for 1-9. Then there are still QFs/SFs with 8? (I thought perhaps they would skip the QFs and make them into a "Champion-group" and "Relegation-group", where 1-5 would then deliver the semi-finalists)
Completely normal playoffs after the intermediate round as always. 1-8, 2-7, 3-6, 4-5
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Is there now a challenge for non-tv games too? Because in the Dresden-Schwerin game there is a challenge
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The teams can „rent“ a challenge for their match.
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The teams can „rent“ a challenge for their match.
Thank you very much! I didn't know that
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And now also Famke Boonstra is out with a knee injury (nothing spectacular so I hope it's not serious) so Dresden only has the 2nd libero left for chances...
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Thank you very much! I didn't know that
Yep. It's something like €1500+VAT per match
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Next week:
Schwerin-Dresden
Suhl-Stuttgart
And Stuttgart will play against Potsdam again in the Bundesliga in two weeks. This will be the fourth game in two and a half weeks. And two weeks later the cup final will take place. This will be the fifth game within a few weeks.
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Adria Powell seems to be the last minute reinforcement in Suhl. She was attending todays game on the sidelines wearing a team sweater…