Nation League Man 2023

  • 2-2 sigh...


    Let's see if ARG manages to lose a tie-break to IRN for the +10th time in the last decade.

    They won! That was quite interesting seeing Argentina's OHs taking turns playing as opposite.

  • And it's a win for Argentina. They will play Italy in QFs if Poland beats Japan. If Poland loses, Argentina will play Poland themselves... (all this assuming USA at the very least beats BUL).


    So, in short, Poland will be choosing opponent against Japan: win and play Brazil or Slovenia, lose and play Argentina.

  • In the end, China only has one Zhang Jing-yin.

    My head sculpture, Jiang Chuan...

    might be retired from NT this year.

    My favourite roster of Chinese (in 2022)
    male NT:
    S - Yu Yao-chen, Chen Lei-yang
    OP - Jiang Chuan, Dai Qing-yao
    OH - Zhang Jing-yin, Yu Yuan-tai, Liu Li-bin, Fu Hou-wen
    MB - Zhang Zhe-jia, Peng Shi-kun, Li Yong-zhen, Jiang Zhen-yang
    L - Yang Yi-ming, Yang Tian-yuan


    female NT:
    S - Yao Di, Diao Lin-yu
    OP - Gong Xiang-yu, Sun Xiao-xuan
    OH - Li Ying-ying, Wang Yi-fan, Wu Meng-jie, Zhuang Yu-shan
    MB - Yuan Xin-yue, Wang Yuan-yuan, Zheng Yi-xin, Liu Yu
    L - Ni Fei-fan, Xu Jia-nan

  • If I'm not mistaken only way China can avoid Challenger Cup relegation is in the case that Cuba loses 0-3 to Iran?

    It's too hard.

    My favourite roster of Chinese (in 2022)
    male NT:
    S - Yu Yao-chen, Chen Lei-yang
    OP - Jiang Chuan, Dai Qing-yao
    OH - Zhang Jing-yin, Yu Yuan-tai, Liu Li-bin, Fu Hou-wen
    MB - Zhang Zhe-jia, Peng Shi-kun, Li Yong-zhen, Jiang Zhen-yang
    L - Yang Yi-ming, Yang Tian-yuan


    female NT:
    S - Yao Di, Diao Lin-yu
    OP - Gong Xiang-yu, Sun Xiao-xuan
    OH - Li Ying-ying, Wang Yi-fan, Wu Meng-jie, Zhuang Yu-shan
    MB - Yuan Xin-yue, Wang Yuan-yuan, Zheng Yi-xin, Liu Yu
    L - Ni Fei-fan, Xu Jia-nan

  • Maximum Possible Wins and Points for Sunday (Updated after USA-FRA)


    Position, Team, Current Record, Points (Maximum Wins, Points)

    1. JPN 10-1, 27 (11-1, 30), Clinched

    2. USA 9-2, 28 (10-2, 31), Clinched

    3. ITA 9-3, 26, Clinched

    4. ARG 9-3, 26, Clinched

    5. POL 9-2, 22 (10-2, 25), Qualified as Finals Hosts

    6. BRA 8-4, 25, Clinched

    7. SLO 7-4, 22 (8-4, 25), Clinched, Challenger team

    8. SRB 6-6, 16

    ---Top 7 + Host to Finals---

    9. NED 5-6, 17 (6-6, 20), Challenger team
    10. FRA 5-6, 15 (6-6, 18)

    11. GER 3-8,10 (4-8, 13), Eliminated

    12. CAN 3-9, 9, Eliminated, Challenger team

    13. IRI 2-9, 9 (3-9, 12), Eliminated

    14. BUL 2-9, 8 (3-9, 11), Eliminated, Challenger team

    15. CUB 2-9, 6 (3-9, 9), Eliminated, Challenger team

    16. CHN 2-10, 6, Eliminated, Challenger team


    Clinching Scenarios Remaining for Sunday

    SRB BOTH NED LOSS vs. SLO AND FRA LOSS vs. GER

    SRB already at 6 wins, NED/FRA on 5 wins right now

    NED WIN vs. SLO

    NED win would tie on 6 points, and be ahead of SRB/FRA on points before FRA plays

    FRA WIN vs. GER AND NED LOSS vs. SLO

    FRA win would tie on 6 points, and be ahead of SRB on points


    Elimination Scenarios Remaining for Sunday

    SRB NED WIN vs. SLO OR FRA WIN vs. GER

    NED win would tie on 6 points, and be ahead of SRB/FRA on points before FRA plays

    FRA win would tie on 6 points, and be ahead of SRB on points


    NED LOSS vs. SLO

    SRB already at 6 wins, NED can't match


    FRA LOSS vs. GER OR NED WIN vs. SLOV

    SRB/NED already at 6 wins in this last scenario, FRA can't match on points even with WIN vs. GER

  • Challenger Relegation Race

    CUB must get 1 set win vs. IRI to stay in VNL

    1 CUB set win will make the sets ratio 13-34 (.382) for CUB and 12-33 (.363) for CHN


    CHN CUB must LOSE vs. IRI 3-0

    0 CUB set win will make the sets ratio 12-34 (.352) for CUB and 12-33 (.363) for CHN


    BUL is safe as they are already ahead of CHN on points with all of CHN matches played and tied on wins at 2.

  • Maximum Possible Wins and Points for Sunday (Updated after SLO-NED)


    Position, Team, Current Record, Points (Maximum Wins, Points)

    1. JPN 10-1, 27 (11-1, 30), Clinched

    2. USA 9-2, 28 (10-2, 31), Clinched

    3. ITA 9-3, 26, Clinched

    4. ARG 9-3, 26, Clinched

    5. POL 9-2, 22 (10-2, 25), Qualified as Finals Hosts

    6. BRA 8-4, 25, Clinched

    7. SLO 8-4, 25, Clinched, Challenger team

    8. SRB 6-6, 16

    ---Top 7 + Host to Finals---

    9. NED 5-7, 17, Eliminated, Challenger team
    10. FRA 5-6, 15 (6-6, 18)

    11. GER 3-8,10 (4-8, 13), Eliminated

    12. CAN 3-9, 9, Eliminated, Challenger team

    13. IRI 2-9, 9 (3-9, 12), Eliminated

    14. BUL 2-9, 8 (3-9, 11), Eliminated, Challenger team

    15. CUB 2-9, 6 (3-9, 9), Eliminated, Challenger team

    16. CHN 2-10, 6, Eliminated, Challenger team


    Clinching Scenarios Remaining for Sunday

    SRB FRA LOSS vs. GER

    SRB already at 6 wins, NED/FRA on 5 wins right now


    FRA WIN vs. GER

    FRA win would tie on 6 points, and be ahead of SRB on points


    Elimination Scenarios Remaining for Sunday

    SRB FRA WIN vs. GER

    FRA win would tie on 6 wins, and be ahead of SRB on points


    FRA LOSS vs. GER

    SRB already at 6 wins in this last scenario, FRA can't match on points even with WIN vs. GER

  • Oof though loss for Netherlands, no final 8 for them. The outside hitters performed so badly that Ter Maat (opposite) came in to play OH

    Yeah, all Dutch OHs were so bad today that on setter place I would set everything to Nimir. Also their reception was bad so the game was much more complicated.

  • Huber with 3 straight aces against Japan! :white:

  • Great serving game by Poland! Hardly any errors. Great blocking too. Japan's reception is not the same when Ran and Yamamoto are not on the court.

  • Poland demolished Japan in straight sets with those tough serves and strong blocking. :super:

  • Ugh men's volleyball is just so ugly with those carry balls every time. Don't understand why the referees don't call that off

    I agree. I saw Plummer did it once ( but much clean) and Heynan, the commentator, was surprised and compliment her men-volleyballish skill.


    They are ugly now, but were even uglier before around 2018WCH. I think this skill was invented and flourished by Polish OHs. FIVB had to introduce new rule just to limit these attacks because they caused a lot of confusion and controversy.